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02-27-2013, 08:18 AM
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IMO this trade confirms that Gionta will not be moved unless we are out of the playoffs at next year's deadline. We need to retain some veteran forwards to do the heavy lifting while the kids develop, and after Kaberle is gone we'll have plenty of cap space.

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02-27-2013, 08:18 AM
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I don't think size is the issue with Ryder. He's a stocky man and he's got that face of a guy with muscle. It's just that he doesn't use it in a power forward manner. But he's a right winger, and one can hope he replaces Gio on the first line. Of course...he has to earn it first...
Robidas was saying on RDS that Ryder is really fit and in great shape.

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02-27-2013, 08:20 AM
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I Fn hate Ryder whats next bring back Ribs and give Zednik and Koivu and Theo contracts 1 step forward 100 steps back.

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02-27-2013, 08:22 AM
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Ryder is prety solid, but he uses his size to protect and shield more than to hit.

I like this deal for both teams. For us though we get more of a sniper who will definately help the PP, and gain cap space and a 3rd rd pick.

Cole, he should help Dallas. But after all the talk of retirement and his slow start, his mind being elsewhere (likely for his kids and their future schooling) this makes sense.


I hope it really works out for us.

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02-27-2013, 08:23 AM
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Cole was great, wanted him on the team for the playoffs. Woulda been fun. Not many 1st place teams trade a player like him. Slow start, so what. **** that. You want Michael Ryder? Add him to the team, or sign Andrei ****ing Kostitsyn. You wanna get rid of the contract, trade Cole in the offseason, he was coming around, and 4.5 isn't a noose.

Don't like it at all. Ignoring the fact that the production is the same, it's about the team. Cole was a big part of it. Brian Gionta is lucky he's the captain of the team. Can't trade your captain, although a way better move would be to keep Cole and move Gionta.

Welcome Ryder, hope he plays with Max-Pac and DD and shoots the puck all night long. But still, Cole was one of the good guys and I was really proud that he was a Hab. Feels too soon.
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02-27-2013, 08:26 AM
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IMO this trade confirms that Gionta will not be moved unless we are out of the playoffs at next year's deadline. We need to retain some veteran forwards to do the heavy lifting while the kids develop, and after Kaberle is gone we'll have plenty of cap space.
Any cap relief from moving Gionta would probably be offset by issues in the room. With a relatively young team having guys like Gio Plekanec Gorges Prust around is very valuable. Plus Markov in terms of on ice presence.

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02-27-2013, 08:27 AM
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IMO this trade confirms that Gionta will not be moved unless we are out of the playoffs at next year's deadline. We need to retain some veteran forwards to do the heavy lifting while the kids develop, and after Kaberle is gone we'll have plenty of cap space.
Nobody would take Gionta anyway. A smal, slow, expensive non producing player.

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02-27-2013, 08:27 AM
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Robidas was saying on RDS that Ryder is really fit and in great shape.
Usually that's the case for guys producing well in their 30's. Maybe cole lost that a bit this year, but no way he has the year he had and score 35 without being well conditionned.

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02-27-2013, 08:28 AM
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Okay now, let's get Koivu and Souray.
Don't forget Kovalev!

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Okay now, let's get Koivu and Souray.
Gio and Kaberle for them from the Ducks, straight up. We win, easy.

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02-27-2013, 08:31 AM
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I don t understand why MB aka Rejean Houle would trade one of his leaders when the team is doing good? Erik Cole is the prototypical power-forward off to a slow start ...who cares! he has 6PTS MP has 14 and Plek 13 wow (only in Montreal) The team has a chance to win now or at least had a chance to win. Who is next ...PK? he's already on the 3rd D line. (I miss Garbo and Gainey)
I don't think you got enough sleep lol

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Armstrong+4th round pick+Bournival.

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02-27-2013, 08:33 AM
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So RYDER gets back 73.
Gallagher goes back to 11 (Junior days)

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02-27-2013, 08:35 AM
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So RYDER gets back 73.
Gallagher goes back to 11 (Junior days)
Uh-oh, have we cured the curse on that number yet?

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02-27-2013, 08:35 AM
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I like the trade. Cole was declining and still had 2 big years left. Ryder looks pretty good right now and can leave after this season if he or the Habs want.

Now to get rid of Gionta and Kaberle.

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02-27-2013, 08:36 AM
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We were in a rebuilding "phase" last year. If you think MB moves Ryder or Plerkanec before the deadline you are dreaming in colour.

I agree on Perry, if he hits the UFA market, his cap hit wiull end up above 7 mil, probably front loaded over 7 years. 52-55 mil over 7 years(10 10 8 8 8 6 5).

So rebuilding lasts only a year? i'm not saying they'll both be dealt at the deadline. But i maintain that getting a 2013 2nd round pick for Ryder at the deadline would be make the Cole deal even more interesting. Even tough i like him I'd prefer to give some quality time to the prospects next year than signing Ryder. So why not trading him?

As for Pleky he's currently at the top of his value. I can see a lot of established teams that'd be interested in his profile. With 3 years left at 5M per he wouldn't be part of a loan type deal. I truly hope for him to be dealt by the end of next year so we can get some young quality return.

We're certainly not contenders this year, neither will we be next year with Ryder if we sign him. I'm all for trading the Giontas, Plekys to bring some youngers assets and build around the Patchs, Gaclhys, Subbans and co.

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02-27-2013, 08:37 AM
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I don't think you got enough sleep lol
Has to be a joke. If not, words cannot express......

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As a hawks fan I come in peace!

The way I see this,

Erik Cole was basically having a good time with his family this off season and almost was ready for retirement. ( by the sound bites on his interviews )

Micheal Ryder is a massive upgrade over a half hearted Erik Cole, he will be a good fit in your line up, as well as the ability to put up the points and rise to the occasion in big games.

The third round draft pick is like a cherry on top for Montreal in this situation as I'm sure you'll find Cole retiring this upcoming off season.

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02-27-2013, 08:38 AM
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Uh-oh, have we cured the curse on that number yet?
I hear the Canadiens have burned ALL videos of Gomez wearing number 11.

Sucks for the fans who bought a Gallagher 73 t-shirt or jersey (I was going to get one my self!)

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02-27-2013, 08:40 AM
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Now if only MB could do the same with Gionta and Kaberle ... $$$$$$$!!!
Well he might be able to with Kaberle.....


But I don't know if there IS anyone in the league smaller than Gionta...

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02-27-2013, 08:40 AM
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I hear the Canadiens have burned ALL videos of Gomez wearing number 11.

Sucks for the fans who bought a Gallagher 73 t-shirt or jersey (I was going to get one my self!)
Yup, sure does. I bought one on Saturday, none too pleased

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02-27-2013, 08:42 AM
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Yup, sure does. I bought one on Saturday, none too pleased
Did you buy a jersey or a t-shirt?
Honestly though.. its never a good thing to buy a jersey of a rookie player. They nearly always change the number in the second season.

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I hear the Canadiens have burned ALL videos of Gomez wearing number 11.

Sucks for the fans who bought a Gallagher 73 t-shirt or jersey (I was going to get one my self!)
A t-shirt I can understand, but do people really purchase jerseys that quickly?

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So RYDER gets back 73.
Gallagher goes back to 11 (Junior days)
Gallagher has NO repect for the veterans before him.

That number should be retired for...
















Gomez!

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all jokes aside I'm not a fan of anyone wearing the 11. but if anyone has to, Gallagher is alright

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