Was looking through the OHL scoring and saw Matthew Mistele with 46 points in 50 games! Even though he's a year older, that's still really good. I wonder how he'll perform next year when several of the key Whalers players are gone. Have only seen the Whalers play once, but this is the first time I've ever heard his name haha.
Was looking through the OHL scoring and saw Matthew Mistele with 46 points in 50 games! Even though he's a year older, that's still really good. I wonder how he'll perform next year when several of the key Whalers players are gone. Have only seen the Whalers play once, but this is the first time I've ever heard his name haha.
If he were available this year I'd have him 21st overall, so even though he's a little older he's still projecting fine so far.
Interesting list if based on numbers how do you have Warriors Brayden Point at 38
he is the leading scoring among 16 year olds 10 pts ahead of Phillip who you have at 16 many of your ranking # way off you are from ontario I take it .
Herbst will be a question mark for all teams. He's had 2 surgeries now on his knee to work on his meniscus. He's been shutdown for this whole season and apparently(rumour) underwent that second surgery a couple weeks ago.
It's an uphill battle for him especially in dealing with the meniscus.
Interesting list if based on numbers how do you have Warriors Brayden Point at 38
he is the leading scoring among 16 year olds 10 pts ahead of Phillip who you have at 16 many of your ranking # way off you are from ontario I take it .
Size will be an issue for him going forward. Although size isn't as important for forwards, Point will have to gain weight before he can climb the rankings.
As for Philp, I had some info not entered right, like that he is a late-95, so his correct rank is not 16, he should end up somewhere in the 2nd-3rd round.
Not sure if I understand the last part of your message right but no I'm not from Ontario. I'm from Quebec, anyways, all my rankings are based on stats, so it's not like it matters a whole lot where I'm from.
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Herbst will be a question mark for all teams. He's had 2 surgeries now on his knee to work on his meniscus. He's been shutdown for this whole season and apparently(rumour) underwent that second surgery a couple weeks ago.
It's an uphill battle for him especially in dealing with the meniscus.
It's unfortunate, he looked like a good prospect coming out of Midget hockey.
Nice to see Prophet get some love on this list. If you didn't tell anyone, I guarantee you no one would be able to tell he is a rookie this year. He looks like an 18 yr out there nost nights. The one thing that is his weak point though is that he does have a tendency to get caught flat footed and get blown by, leading to a hooking or interference call. But other than that he has been the best defensive prospect to come through Saginaw since T.J. Brodie. (Not counting Oleksiak because he wasn't drafted out of Saginaw).
Size will be an issue for him going forward. Although size isn't as important for forwards, Point will have to gain weight before he can climb the rankings.
As for Philp, I had some info not entered right, like that he is a late-95, so his correct rank is not 16, he should end up somewhere in the 2nd-3rd round.
Not sure if I understand the last part of your message right but no I'm not from Ontario. I'm from Quebec, anyways, all my rankings are based on stats, so it's not like it matters a whole lot where I'm from.
It's unfortunate, he looked like a good prospect coming out of Midget hockey.
Not sure how much you think Point weighs but its not the 148 you read on the hockey Canada Web site that was weight last summer Points not huge but he will be 5ft 10 170 next season Draft year not big but not tiny.Point is 160lbs now According to the Warriors.Start of season 5ft 8 155 late maturing kid
Not sure how much you think Point weighs but its not the 148 you read on the hockey Canada Web site that was weight last summer Points not huge but he will be 5ft 10 170 next season Draft year not big but not tiny.Point is 160lbs now According to the Warriors.Start of season 5ft 8 155 late maturing kid
Size is an issue. Lots of talent but very small. Not sure why you are trying to argue otherwise. It is what it is. And that tends to affect where a player gets taken in the draft.
Not sure how much you think Point weighs but its not the 148 you read on the hockey Canada Web site that was weight last summer Points not huge but he will be 5ft 10 170 next season Draft year not big but not tiny.Point is 160lbs now According to the Warriors.Start of season 5ft 8 155 late maturing kid
If he ends up at 5'10 170 for next year's draft then fine, it won't matter as much Until then I'll keep the 5'8 155 measurement.
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Ditto for Goldobin
Both are late 95's, so they are further ahead in their development than most kids in this draft Especially for Golodbin who also has a year experience in the MHL.
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call me crazy but you should switch Bennett with Watson.
It may well happen in the near future, both look like solid players. That said, all my players are based on stats so.
Well, it's not because you're granted a special status by the CHL that you will automatically be the n'1 pick in the draft. Rico Fata once was given special status. Although Ekblad is looking like a solid player, I'm not sure he has the offensive potential of a kid like Set Jones for example.
Fata was not granted special status. He was allowed to play as a 15 year old due to a rule that allowed underage players to play for their hometown OHL team if they were good enough to make the team. Fata would not have been granted exceptional status under current rules, definitely not. He struggled as a 15 year old and was not a star as a 16 year old.
Ekblad on the other hand was a number one defensemen at 15, at top defensemen in the OHL at 16, and I suspect he could be the best defensemen in the CHL next season.
I don't know how you couldn't have Ekblad number one at this point, no offense to Nylander and Reinhart who are shaping up to be first overall talents in their own right. We're getting blessed by having two defensemen with generational talent potential two drafts in a row.
If he ends up at 5'10 170 for next year's draft then fine, it won't matter as much Until then I'll keep the 5'8 155 measurement.
Both are late 95's, so they are further ahead in their development than most kids in this draft Especially for Golodbin who also has a year experience in the MHL.
It may well happen in the near future, both look like solid players. That said, all my players are based on stats so.
Matheltic if you base your draft on stats then how come Bukarts is lower than Arkhip Nekolenko?
Bukarts is a late-95 whereas Nekolenko is a 96. This would be the maine reason why. Bukarts is also in his 2nd MHL season.
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I don't know how you couldn't have Ekblad number one at this point, no offense to Nylander and Reinhart who are shaping up to be first overall talents in their own right. We're getting blessed by having two defensemen with generational talent potential two drafts in a row.
Nylander is looking like a special talent and has a better shot at n'1 on my list than Ekblad does at this point. Nylander has been great in every league he's been from the U18, U20 and already off to a great start in the Allsvenskan as a 16 year old. Sam Reinhart, after a slow start, has picked up the pace greatly this year and is showing very good potential as well. The same goes for Dal Colle.
This is nothing against Ekblad who I think is a very good player. That said, from all the research I can make, forwards will hold more value at the draft than d-men. I made the same case for Jones at n'4 this year. This is not to say that Jones isn't a good player, it's just that forwards with high-end potential are more valuable. They're harder to get on the open market in the NHL, and they're for the most part selected very high in the draft.
I'll re-post what I wrote in the other thread about the 2013 draft.
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My main arguments for having MacKinnon, Drouin and Barkov ahead of Jones would be the following. The top forwards in the game tend to impact the game more so than top d-men and top goalies.
Simplifying things down to a minimum, I would not trade Alex Pietrangelo for Carey Price nor would I trade Steven Stamkos for Alex Pietrangelo.
I think high end forwards are more rare than high end d-men. If we take a look at some of the high end forwards in the league we'd find that most of them would have been selected very high in the draft. For example, Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, Tavares, Spezza, Kovalchuk, Seguin, etc. There would some lower picks like Giroux, Neal, Eberle and so on, there are some but there are fewer than there would be for D's and goalies.
For instance, on defense guys like Weber, Chara, Lidstrom, Boyle, Yandle, Burns, Visnovski, Byfuglien, Keith, Subban, etc. were available later in their draft years.
Also, d-men tend to be more sensitive to the team they are one. A good d-man put on a weaker team won't shine as much as he'd be on a good team, whereas forwards tend to be more consistent.
I give MackInnon, Drouin and Barkov the same grades I'd give to players like Stamkos, Tavares, Kane and so on, so it's almost by default they end up high on the list. That said, it's not like Jones isn't a premium prospect.
So, with that said, nothing against Brodin nor Hamilton, they're both great prospects but I'd still take the RNHs, Landeskogs, Huberdeaus of this world ahead of them.
