I was seconds away from taking Gagne with my last pick, before I made the late-breaking decision to go with Nathan instead.
Gagne's the perfect illustration of why I don't think relief pitchers are a big factor in this draft. The guy was awful, then completely unhittable for a few years, then turned right back into a pumpkin and was out of the league before you knew it. Pitching out of the bullpen is just insanely volatile. Aside from two or three guys, I think it's tough to really consider most closers to be all-time greats.
“Who is the best left-handed reliever of all time? The best left-handed reliever specializing in getting out lefties, by far, has been Jesse Orosco. He has been consistently effective for 20 years at a job that most people can’t do two years in a row.”— Bill James
1,254 G
1,295 IP
87-80
3.16 ERA
125 ERA+
1.26 WHIP
144 saves
One knock on Jesse is that he suffered from Steve Calrton-itis, and stuck around for about 5 years too long to the detriment of his career ratios. Looking at Orosco’s very lengthy prime years from 1982 to 1998, he had a 2.93 ERA (136 ERA+) and a 1.22 WHIP
Last edited by UL Washington: 02-28-2013 at 10:41 AM.
Hoyt will fill in the long relief role in the Superbas pen. Known as a starter, he is not unfamiliar with the relief role, pitching 249 times in his career out of the pen (to go along with 425 starts).
1969 Hall of Fame
3 time World Series Champ
237-182
3.59 ERA
In World Series play he was 6-4 with a tidy 1.83 ERA. In the 1921 World Series, he pitched 27 innings with 0 earned runs allowed (and the Yankees still managed to lose the series)
“Who is the best left-handed reliever of all time? The best left-handed reliever specializing in getting out lefties, by far, has been Jesse Orosco. He has been consistently effective for 20 years at a job that most people can’t do two years in a row.”— Bill James
1,254 G
1,295 IP
87-80
3.16 ERA
125 ERA+
1.20 WHIP
144 saves
One knock on Jesse is that he suffered from Steve Calrton-it is, and stuck around for about 5 years too long to the detriment of his career ratios. Looking at Orosco’s very lengthy prime years from 1982 to 1998, he had a 2.93 ERA (136 ERA+) and a 1.22 WHIP
Orosco was pretty good at getting out righty's too. He was on my shortlist.
You know, there was organized baseball before 1980.
what's your point? :p
I Have Hank Aaron lol.
I draft from what I know... I could easily draft off a best of list, but it wouldn't be overly personalized. fyi; i wanted stargell and koufax just to name a few pre 80's stars lol
and... sorry for the missing pvt was 5am when I draft. passed out.
“Who is the best left-handed reliever of all time? The best left-handed reliever specializing in getting out lefties, by far, has been Jesse Orosco. He has been consistently effective for 20 years at a job that most people can’t do two years in a row.”— Bill James
1,254 G
1,295 IP
87-80
3.16 ERA
125 ERA+
1.26 WHIP
144 saves
One knock on Jesse is that he suffered from Steve Calrton-itis, and stuck around for about 5 years too long to the detriment of his career ratios. Looking at Orosco’s very lengthy prime years from 1982 to 1998, he had a 2.93 ERA (136 ERA+) and a 1.22 WHIP
was 5am when I draft. passed out.
