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02-26-2013, 07:44 PM
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Interesting session tonight for the council.
Sounds like the Attorneys name plate was removed...wonder what was the final straw to axe him.

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Sounds like the Attorneys name plate was removed...wonder what was the final straw to axe him.
Wasn't Tindall in charge of the RFP?

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02-26-2013, 08:09 PM
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Wasn't Tindall in charge of the RFP?
I am not sure about his recent activities but that list of officials that Glendale has gotten rid of is troubling. Really qualified canidates will stay away with all that turnover.

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I am not sure about his recent activities but that list of officials that Glendale has gotten rid of is troubling. Really qualified canidates will stay away with all that turnover.
I think Glendale will have more than a hard time finding qualified candidates and it will have nothing to do with recent departures and more to do with the fiscal hole the City finds itself in.

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Well take it for what it is worth buy Council Member Sherwood just did a radio interview and said Jamison made a public proposal through him.....Dont know what that means.

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Well take it for what it is worth buy Council Member Sherwood just did a radio interview and said Jamison made a public proposal through him.....Dont know what that means.
What it means is today was on the calendar to drop a little meaningless gem on the media. I'm guessing it's on the calendar two more times before the April 15th announcement. (Subject to delay if the pesky playoffs get in the way.)

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With regards to the new proposed re-alignment:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/89...ue-4-divisions

Do you think the inclusion of Phoenix in the new Pacific Division is a good sign that they will have another season in Phoenix (at a minimum)?

Either that, or I'm just reading too much into it!

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With regards to the new proposed re-alignment:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/89...ue-4-divisions

Do you think the inclusion of Phoenix in the new Pacific Division is a good sign that they will have another season in Phoenix (at a minimum)?

Either that, or I'm just reading too much into it!
I'm not sure to be honest, but it likely indicates that if the NHL wishes to move the Coyotes after this season, QC might be off the table (although the nhl may just want a high expansion fee from QC with a new franchise in several years). They could move the Coyotes to Seattle or another western city or keep them in Phoenix but who knows at this point.

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With regards to the new proposed re-alignment:

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/89...ue-4-divisions

Do you think the inclusion of Phoenix in the new Pacific Division is a good sign that they will have another season in Phoenix (at a minimum)?

Either that, or I'm just reading too much into it!
If it means anything at all my $.02 is: they are not moving to QC.

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...and lose that expansion money?
I was expecting QC to be an expansion team, so I wonder why there are 8 teams in the (new Adams) Central Division?

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02-27-2013, 07:15 PM
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Makes some sense to give Seattle a good team and then wax QC an enormous expansion fee.

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02-27-2013, 07:58 PM
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Well take it for what it is worth buy Council Member Sherwood just did a radio interview and said Jamison made a public proposal through him.....Dont know what that means.
Link to interview.....

http://sportsbreakthrough.com/show-a...hip-situation/

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Makes some sense to give Seattle a good team and then wax QC an enormous expansion fee.
...and the 32nd expansion team is? I think the NHLPA don't want realignment unless there is 32 teams. It has to do with how teams are picked for the playoffs.

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02-27-2013, 08:08 PM
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...and the 32nd expansion team is? I think the NHLPA don't want realignment unless there is 32 teams. It has to do with how teams are picked for the playoffs.
Toronto. But I am not sure sticking two franchises in one location is a recipe for success for Seattle.

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02-27-2013, 08:20 PM
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Expansion;

... where are you guys reading those signals from? It makes sense... but this is the National Hockey League, not MLB, the NFL or NBA. Honestly, who cares? They fail to deliver & facilitate a local sale in Glendale, why care? They dont deserve your respect, fealty, loyalty, nothin. Valhalla Rising. Your country stops here and now. Done.

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02-27-2013, 08:54 PM
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My crazy (or is it?) wish:

Pacific Division
Anaheim
Calgary
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver
Seattle
Portland


Mid-West Division
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Minnesota
Nashville
St. Louis
Winnipeg
Houston
Kansas City



Central Division
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Columbus
Montreal
Ottawa
Toronto
Toronto 2
Quebec City




Atlantic Division
Carolina
New Jersey
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Washington
Tampa Bay
Florida

36 teams, 4 divisions of 9. Grow through the pain.

That adds some $650-700 million more in revenue per year, as a low estimate. Then you have about $200 million each for the sale of Seattle, Portland, Houston and OKC. $300-400 million for QC and Toronto 2. You add the #10, #14, #22 and #45 US TV markets, respectively. Everyone has better travel, and the divisions make the sport extremely TV friendly timezone wise.

An expansion worth $1.5 billion in expansion fees that grows revenues by 20%? Yes, please.


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02-27-2013, 09:02 PM
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Well I wouldn't plan on any trips yet.

"@DarrenDreger: Told it's 50-50 at the moment as to whether or not PA approves realignment proposal. NHL will push hard to get it through as is. #TSN"

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02-27-2013, 09:03 PM
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Toronto. But I am not sure sticking two franchises in one location is a recipe for success for Seattle.
I don't think that the Leafs will allow it and to a lesser extent, the Sabres...

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02-27-2013, 09:07 PM
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My crazy (or is it?) wish:

Pacific Division
Anaheim
Calgary
Edmonton
Los Angeles
Phoenix
San Jose
Vancouver
Seattle
Portland


Mid-West Division
Chicago
Colorado
Dallas
Minnesota
Nashville
St. Louis
Winnipeg
Houston
Oklahoma City



Central Division
Boston
Buffalo
Detroit
Columbus
Montreal
Ottawa
Toronto
Toronto 2
Quebec City




Atlantic Division
Carolina
New Jersey
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Washington
Tampa Bay
Florida

36 teams, 4 divisions of 9. Grow through the pain.

That adds some $650-700 million more in revenue per year, as a low estimate. Then you have about $200 million each for the sale of Seattle, Portland, Houston and OKC. $300-400 million for QC and Toronto 2. You add the #10, #14, #22 and #45 US TV markets, respectively. Everyone has better travel, and the divisions make the sport extremely TV friendly timezone wise.

An expansion worth $1.5 billion in expansion fees that grows revenues by 20%? Yes, please.
OKC doesn't need a team. I'd drop either Portland or Houston, too.

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02-27-2013, 09:11 PM
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OKC doesn't need a team. I'd drop either Portland or Houston, too.
By a lot of measures, plenty of markets don't need or deserve a team. But give every team a $50 million payday from expansion fees divided up, and suddenly the league is a lot healthier. Adding 6 teams would water down expenses while providing plenty of upward pressure on salaries.

edit: I also got Kansas City and OKC mixed up.


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Even though I am in Seattle, I would not want us to take the Coyotes. I am considering moving back, knowing my luck it would be the coyotes to move here just as I left. I am not sure what I would do if Seattle got a team the coyotes move. I am not really a fan of this city and it isn't my home.

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Coyotes enjoying increased attendance

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In 2013, after 10 games, Phoenix is averaging 13,142 fans through the gates of Jobing.com Arena, slightly more than the New York Islanders (13,109) and considerably more than the Coyotes averaged in 2011-12 (12,420).
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...ed-attendance/

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The guy that most people think has the best understanding of the situation on Glendale's council. Also, John Kaites confirmed interest again today...so Reinsdorf is back in the picture. I also heard that Jamison's new proposal is for 12 years.

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The guy that most people think has the best understanding of the situation on Glendale's council. Also, John Kaites confirmed interest again today...so Reinsdorf is back in the picture. I also heard that Jamison's new proposal is for 12 years.
I have one big issue with all of this:

It's March 2013.

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I have one big issue with all of this:

It's March 2013.

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