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How does this Ducks team stack up against historical Ducks teams?

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02-27-2013, 08:28 PM
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gotta say the 06-07 team would beat the current one.

current team is better than 03.

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02-27-2013, 08:33 PM
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The 2007 team is my pick for best team since the 2004/05 lockout.

They were that good.

I think they would beat every other Stanley Cup winner since that lockout in a best-of-7 series.

So to answer your question: The 2007 team would beat the 2013 team, and probably in 4 or 5 games.

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02-27-2013, 08:42 PM
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If a 10 is the 06-07 team, and a 1 is the 97-98 team, I'd say the 2013 team is a solid 7.5.
97-98 is only a "1" because Teemu scored 50 goals. Pierre Page did his best to make that team a -14.

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02-27-2013, 09:34 PM
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The 2006-2007 team would embarass it.

The 2002-2003 team would basically need Giguere to win it for them.
This is the answer.

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02-27-2013, 09:40 PM
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That Cup team was an absolute wrecking ball, this year's iteration is nowhere close. I'm not sure there's a team in the NHL today that could beat that team with Pronger and Niedermeyer. Not to trash this year's Ducks, they have a real good team, but that team was crazy.

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02-27-2013, 10:23 PM
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They are good, but I'm not sure this Ducks team could beat Iceland.

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02-27-2013, 10:29 PM
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02-03 is far from our second best historical team.

Id take the 08-09 team from the playoffs over any except for 06-07.

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02-27-2013, 10:35 PM
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I say bring this thread back up when the season is over... still a lot of hockey to play... to early

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02-27-2013, 10:37 PM
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First off, this isn't a main board thread and should be on the Ducks board or History of Hockey, mainly because only Ducks fans/SoCal residents are going to be able to give an educated answer since nobody watches Ducks hockey except those in SoCal: especially the 2003 team.
This KY Ducks fan who has suffered through too many bad years since 1997 or so would certainly disagree with your premise. That there is a Ducks home game (Pacific time) on at the moment on my Eastern time television belies that even further (& yes 10:30pm start times SUCK - however our European friends have it even worse so there's that...).

However as to the original question, I'd say that this team isn't quite as good as the 07 team & quite a bit better overall than the 03 team. The 07 team just dominated most every game that they played that year. Coming back from the lockout many/most teams played a fairly soft style of hockey & the Ducks that year just physically abused everyone that they met. Combine that with the HOF level defense & a pair of goalies that didn't get scored on often & the incredible offense that they had just wasn't needed as much.

This year's team as of now has the potential to go really deep into the playoffs & I'm looking forward to seeing how they do. Compared to the 07 team I think that they are weaker in most areas except perhaps scoring depth (more people than just the big guns that you expect to put up points are doing so - Palmeri just got a hat trick tonight for instance). Perhaps not weaker by much but it's tough to compare with/live up to the standards set by a team that steamrolled it's way to The Cup.

The 03 team otoh was incredibly special & wildly talented but they managed to catch lightning in a bottle that year. They were a strong team (nobody sweeps the Red Wings & takes the finals to 7 games by being weak) but they weren't section by section as dominating as the other two teams are. What they had though was parts that meshed together perfectly & managed to work when needed (plus having the Conn Smythe winner on the losing team as goalie certainly didn't hurt, he just couldn't be scored on very often)

Regardless, it's nice seeing other people starting to see what I've know for far too many years, when the pieces come together the Ducks can field an incredible team.

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02-27-2013, 10:56 PM
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That Cup team was an absolute wrecking ball, this year's iteration is nowhere close. I'm not sure there's a team in the NHL today that could beat that team with Pronger and Niedermeyer. Not to trash this year's Ducks, they have a real good team, but that team was crazy.
Exactly what I was thinking. The cup team was just crazy. I went to almost every home game that year and I remember feeling like they could win every single game at any time.

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02-27-2013, 11:08 PM
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I think that this duck team is sorely missing Neids. His character and skill were the key ingredient to the cup team imo. This is a good ducks team but not close to where the cup team was.

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02-27-2013, 11:09 PM
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Worse than 07, better than 03.

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02-28-2013, 12:20 AM
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Yeah that just about sums it up. The 2003 team wasn't very good all-around, they just had Gigeure going god-mode. The 2007 team is one of the best teams of this era.
Yep. That 2007 team would wreck any of the cup winners from the last 4 years.

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02-28-2013, 12:23 AM
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07 team. Not even close. Id take that 07 team over almost any other team in the 2000's. Any year. Any team.

Jiggy intop of his game.
Kunitz. Selanne. Mcdonald 1st line.
Perry. Getz. Penner 2nd coming into their own.
Pahlsson 3rd line shutting teams top lines flat out. Even strength or pk.
Scotty and pronger each playing 30 minutes a game.

That team had nasty skill. Nasty speed. And just plain physical and abusive.

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02-28-2013, 12:32 AM
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02-03 is far from our second best historical team.

Id take the 08-09 team from the playoffs over any except for 06-07.
I loved that team too. They were missing one player (2C) from being a finals team IMO

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02-28-2013, 12:35 AM
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07 team. Not even close. Id take that 07 team over almost any other team in the 2000's. Any year. Any team.

Jiggy intop of his game.
Kunitz. Selanne. Mcdonald 1st line.
Perry. Getz. Penner 2nd coming into their own.
Pahlsson 3rd line shutting teams top lines flat out. Even strength or pk.
Scotty and pronger each playing 30 minutes a game.

That team had nasty skill. Nasty speed. And just plain physical and abusive.
That 07 team made nuck, wild, redwings, and ottowa fans cry so much.

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02-28-2013, 12:53 AM
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07 team. Not even close. Id take that 07 team over almost any other team in the 2000's. Any year. Any team.

Jiggy intop of his game.
Kunitz. Selanne. Mcdonald 1st line.
Perry. Getz. Penner 2nd coming into their own.
Pahlsson 3rd line shutting teams top lines flat out. Even strength or pk.
Scotty and pronger each playing 30 minutes a game.

That team had nasty skill. Nasty speed. And just plain physical and abusive.
The 2001 Av's, 2002 wings (and some other wings team) had very good team.

Than agains the 07 duck did go trought the very very good ottawa senators of that year without that much of a problems.

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02-28-2013, 12:55 AM
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That 07 team made nuck, wild, redwings, and ottowa fans cry so much.
07 ducks also made Teemu cry

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02-28-2013, 01:22 AM
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That 07 team made nuck, wild, redwings, and ottowa fans cry so much.
Not me, I knew we were toast before the series even started. Dallas took a big chunk out of the Canucks that year, but even healthy we couldn't have run with that Ducks team. Taking it to five or six (can't remember) was an achievement in itself.

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02-28-2013, 02:10 AM
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Not me, I knew we were toast before the series even started. Dallas took a big chunk out of the Canucks that year, but even healthy we couldn't have run with that Ducks team. Taking it to five or six (can't remember) was an achievement in itself.
It went to 5 games.

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02-28-2013, 02:14 AM
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That 07 team made nuck, wild, redwings, and ottowa fans cry so much.
i still remember those sens fans that came to the last final game...they had that 1000 yard stare, like they had been abused up in the stands.

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02-28-2013, 02:19 AM
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Not me, I knew we were toast before the series even started. Dallas took a big chunk out of the Canucks that year, but even healthy we couldn't have run with that Ducks team. Taking it to five or six (can't remember) was an achievement in itself.
It was five, but Luongo made a real strong case for six. He had a good series.

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02-28-2013, 02:25 AM
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07 team had two hall of fame defensemen in their primes, Selanne played like he was in his prime with 48 goals, Giguere was just consistently great that whole season and that shutdown line proved how great it was when it completely bottled up the red hot Sens no.1 line

our team now is nowhere close to it, and i like this team. it was just pretty much an almost ideal way to build a team, strong from the net out, strong down the middle, toughest team in the league

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02-28-2013, 03:43 AM
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Yeah, 07 team is the best one and there's no question about it. I always thought that 03 team got on a hot streak at the right time, much like the Kings during last season. Still, that team goes nowhere without Giguere who stole some games in the playoffs. 03 team had a bunch of warrior players who stepped up their games when it mattered.

This season's Ducks team is really interesting. There are few veterans who are still playing great and leading by example (Koivu, Selšnne, Souray), bunch of players in their prime or entering it (Getzlaf, Perry, Beauchemin, Ryan), young players who have found or are finding their place in the team (Fowler, Sbisa, Bonino, Palmieri, Beleskey, also Maroon and Etem could join these guys in time) and there are the core players who have been solid (Allen, Lovejoy, Lydman, Winnik, Cogliano). Notice that I didn't include Fasth or Hiller to any of these catagories? Goaltending is the thing I'm worried about. Hiller hasn't found his form yet and he's letting in soft goals which affects the confidence of the team. Fasth has been a very nice surprise but is this just a hot streak? Is he the next Tim Thomas or Antti Niemi? Time will tell.

Anyway, what I really enjoy about the team right now is the scoring depth. Every line can score right now and the team plays with passion. Players are going on a hot streak in turns and they don't have rely on RPG to score all the goals in the last minute.

I'm enjoying this team right now but I'm not yet getting my hopes up. I expect them to make it to the playoffs but it will be interesting to see, how they perform then.

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02-28-2013, 06:36 AM
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It was five, but Luongo made a real strong case for six. He had a good series.
i have a pretty good shot of luongo laying face down in the crease with the spot light on him when, my memory is a lil bad but i think robbie neids shot a puck in from blue line and i think got deflected in.

Oh scott shot the puck, rob hit the guy along the boards


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