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02-28-2013, 10:04 AM
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If we draft a WR, we should draft one later. Need isn't as big as others.

I'm also not in favor of drafting a player that has this combine hype
Brandon Marshall caught almost all of Cutler's passes last year. Its still a pretty big need, especially with Knox retiring and Hester potentially moving on. Austin returned kicks at WVU as well.

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02-28-2013, 10:09 AM
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Yeah, there are going to be guys available in free agency for the O-line, but we have to make sure we lock one up. If that happens, then by all means, draft Austin. I don't see any reason not to. Add a quality O-lineman from free agency and that kind of speed to complement Marshall at wideout and the offense is about as complete as it is going to get. Then you can take a TE in round 2 (or another O-line, never anything wrong with that). Unless someone falls drastically, I'd rather address the defense in the later rounds.

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02-28-2013, 10:14 AM
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Austin (1st), Guard/Center (2nd), TE (4th), CB (5th), OL (6th), OL (7th)

Resign Scott, Louis, a LG, and a swing tackle or a LT if one is available (move Webb to swing tackle)

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Austin (1st), Guard/Center (2nd), TE (4th), CB (5th), OL (6th), OL (7th)

Resign Scott, Louis, a LG, and a swing tackle or a LT if one is available (move Webb to swing tackle)
Yeah, that would be an outstanding draft IMO.

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02-28-2013, 11:27 AM
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te and ol are much bigger needs than wr. depending on how the drat goes I'd be pretty pissed if we went wr in first round. Marshall, jeffery, and Bennett isn't super awesome, but it's solid and if we have an oc who will actually utilize forte in the passing game, we can get along fine. te is just a huge hole though.

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02-28-2013, 11:56 AM
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te and ol are much bigger needs than wr. depending on how the drat goes I'd be pretty pissed if we went wr in first round. Marshall, jeffery, and Bennett isn't super awesome, but it's solid and if we have an oc who will actually utilize forte in the passing game, we can get along fine. te is just a huge hole though.
I think a field stretching WR is about the same as a tight end that can run down the seam. Marshall can work the middle of the field.

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I think a field stretching WR is about the same as a tight end that can run down the seam. Marshall can work the middle of the field.
a te in the middle of the field is totally different than Marshall. serviceable deep threats should be attainable later in the draft.

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a te in the middle of the field is totally different than Marshall. serviceable deep threats should be attainable later in the draft.
I don't want another Johnny Knox, because that's all you're going to get later in the draft.

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a te in the middle of the field is totally different than Marshall. serviceable deep threats should be attainable later in the draft.
Its only different because you can get different alignments out there. I agree there are serviceable deep threats later, but that goes for TE as well. Tavon Austin is an elite, elite talent at WR. He's basically Mike Wallace but on a rookie contract.

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I don't want another Johnny Knox, because that's all you're going to get later in the draft.
Or you could have T.Y. Hilton, Mike Wallace, Randall Cobb, Cecil Shorts, Eric Decker, Golden Tate, Andre Roberts, Antonio Brown, or Ramses Barden.

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Its only different because you can get different alignments out there. I agree there are serviceable deep threats later, but that goes for TE as well. Tavon Austin is an elite, elite talent at WR. He's basically Mike Wallace but on a rookie contract.
If he's that good, he wouldn't make it out of the top 10.

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Or you could have T.Y. Hilton, Mike Wallace, Randall Cobb, Cecil Shorts, Eric Decker, Golden Tate, Andre Roberts, Antonio Brown, or Ramses Barden.
I have no reason to believe we will hit gold on a WR with a late round pick, even with a new GM. I'm not anti-Shea like BWC by any means, but I'm not going to say our drafting is a strong point by any means.

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02-28-2013, 01:08 PM
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I have no reason to believe we will hit gold on a WR with a late round pick, even with a new GM. I'm not anti-Shea like BWC by any means, but I'm not going to say our drafting is a strong point by any means.
Well, the Bears need to strike a balance. They don't have space anymore to make a splash like they did with Peppers, so they need to improve their drafting at least for now.

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Well, the Bears need to strike a balance. They don't have space anymore to make a splash like they did with Peppers, so they need to improve their drafting at least for now.
They've needed to improve their defense for 10+ years. I'll believe it when I see it, and until then, I expect most of our picks to bust.

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02-28-2013, 01:17 PM
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I have no reason to believe we will hit gold on a WR with a late round pick, even with a new GM. I'm not anti-Shea like BWC by any means, but I'm not going to say our drafting is a strong point by any means.
Except this class has some depth at WR with guys like Swope and Patton. Austin and Patterson may be the two best, but it's not a large drop off.

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I just want to load up the offense as best as possible and pretty much go with what we have on defense. It seems the organization tends to agree with that so I am happy to see them continue down that road.

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I'd rather see them go after a TE than a WR early on. Some talent on the OL is definitely needed too. The Bears gotta improve on protecting Cutler

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Take Jermichael Finley.

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Keep him and pay him.

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Keep him and pay him.
Hell no. They save over $8 million if they dump his illiterate ass.

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Don't care. Pay the man.

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If he's that good, he wouldn't make it out of the top 10.
Which is why if he's there at 20 I want him.

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Its only different because you can get different alignments out there. I agree there are serviceable deep threats later, but that goes for TE as well. Tavon Austin is an elite, elite talent at WR. He's basically Mike Wallace but on a rookie contract.
yea different alignments that create better matchups. it's no coincidence successful offenses get good production from their te.

and a johnny knox would be fine as a #3, just not as a#1.

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yea different alignments that create better matchups. it's no coincidence successful offenses get good production from their te.

and a johnny knox would be fine as a #3, just not as a#1.
Except Marshall is a match up problem for whoever covers him. Elite wide receivers don't need to use formation to create a mismatch, look at the 2007 Patriots. They had Randy Moss so they didn't need Gronkowski. Top offenses get good production from their TE, but that doesn't mean they have elite TE's.

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Except Marshall is a match up problem for whoever covers him. Elite wide receivers don't need to use formation to create a mismatch, look at the 2007 Patriots. They had Randy Moss so they didn't need Gronkowski. Top offenses get good production from their TE, but that doesn't mean they have elite TE's.
i never said anything about elite tes, just tes who can actually play football. is also funny you mention the patriots and moss because they haven't had a big time speed receiver since and their offense is just fine.

fact is, we have a decent receiving corps, but a bad o line and no te. also gotta start thinking about the future of the defense.

wr should be very low on the list of concerns.

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