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02-26-2013, 10:08 AM
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One thing that I'd love to know (and never will) is what the organization thought of Souray when he was under our control.

A big, veteran, physical defenseman who can skate and score and is known for his leadership was in Hershey for 4 months. What did we see there that made us say meh?
Still disgusts me. Although I must say, when I mentioned it back then, pretty much everyone was against Sourey. Oh if only they had listened to me....we'd have another top pair defender right now.

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02-26-2013, 10:30 AM
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Souray wasn't really "under their control." He would have had to clear re-entry waivers just to get back to the NHL.

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02-26-2013, 10:58 AM
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Souray wasn't really "under their control." He would have had to clear re-entry waivers just to get back to the NHL.
Sorry, I didn't mean contractually. I just meant under the control of our coaching staff. I don't know that we would have even been able to recall him given our cap situation in 2011. We should have been informed enough to make the right choice between Hamrlik for $7 million or Souray for $2 in the off-season.

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02-26-2013, 12:30 PM
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There was absolutely no way Ted and George would bring Souray on after he *****ed out Edmonton's management the way he did.

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There was absolutely no way Ted and George would bring Souray on after he *****ed out Edmonton's management the way he did.
Yeah we already had one bad apple in Semin...

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I wonder what this means in regards to their interest in Dekeyser...

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Yeah we already had one bad apple in Semin...
Exactly, they couldn't risk Souray's loud mouth in addition to all the vitriolic bombs Semin was dropping on a daily basis. Would have irreparably damaged Leonsis's image.

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02-27-2013, 02:26 AM
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There was absolutely no way Ted and George would bring Souray on after he *****ed out Edmonton's management the way he did.
If they felt that way, those morons should wonder what their reputation looks like to the players post Belanger incident.

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I loved what Alan May said during the game last night.

He was happy with the contract and specifically mentioned pretty much EXACTLY what I've been harping on...he is the ONLY player on this team to have that specific skillset and combo of toughness, ruggedness and who can throwdown.

Does he ever have a cannon of a shot too. No goalie was stopping that one.

His D is getting better and better all the time.

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02-27-2013, 11:46 AM
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If they felt that way, those morons should wonder what their reputation looks like to the players post Belanger incident.
Yeah IMO that was far from McPhee's finest hour but Belanger's agent better have been fired for letting that drag out as long as it did unless McPhee was just flat out lying to them, which may have been the case but still. You have to take care of your client...

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Always liked JE. This sounded like too much but if he keeps playing like he has it's a good signing. Maybe he's at his best in a system like Oates is running.

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Yeah IMO that was far from McPhee's finest hour but Belanger's agent better have been fired for letting that drag out as long as it did unless McPhee was just flat out lying to them, which may have been the case but still. You have to take care of your client...
Agreed. But point being you can't be so dogmatic in a glass house.

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Ersk wasn't that crease clearing d-man last night that Holtby was raving about as Simmonds camped out front and scored.

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Simmonds went flying as he scored, at least.

Much later I saw Erskine take a run at someone in center ice.

I wonder if that hit was the reason MP was run later, in almost the exact same spot.

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You would go flying with less balance while you're swatting the puck into the night. He needed to go flying before that.

Yep. I remember the Erskine attempt. That almost led to another Flyers goal but you're right that could have led to the MP hit. Forgot about that.

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I wasn't certain if Erskine made contact with Simmonds before he scored, but I figured, probably.

Anyone catch that number of the guy Erskine ran? If it was one of their runts, maybe that would explain MP getting run late. Maybe it was their lead punk Briere.

Ovi did pick up a token rough on apple cheeks. When he is the only one giving a crap, how long do people to expect him to shoulder all the weight of the team. Rinaldo roughs Ovi. He leads, but the others do not have his back.

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Ersk wasn't that crease clearing d-man last night that Holtby was raving about as Simmonds camped out front and scored.
And how good was he the night before??

The whole team was flat, and tired. It was obvious.

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And how good was he the night before??

The whole team was flat, and tired. It was obvious.
I congrats'd him on the goal and the contract in another thread. Gotta take the criticism too.

The other night was against a team with 3/4 of top d missing. Flyers actually iced something similar to an NHL D - could that be the difference? Caps thought it would be a cake walk.

Detroit won two games in 24 hours thoroughly beating Vancouver and Nashville.

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I congrats'd him on the goal and the contract in another thread. Gotta take the criticism too.

The other night was against a team with 3/4 of top d missing. Flyers actually iced something similar to an NHL D - could that be the difference? Caps thought it would be a cake walk.

Detroit won two games in 24 hours thoroughly beating Vancouver and Nashville.
So your complaint is that Erskine, somehow knowing he would be re-signed right before a back-to-back stint, didn't condition more on his own and isn't in better shape than the rest of the team?

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You would go flying with less balance while you're swatting the puck into the night. He needed to go flying before that.

Yep. I remember the Erskine attempt. That almost led to another Flyers goal but you're right that could have led to the MP hit. Forgot about that.
Erskine was one of our better defenders last night but that isn't saying much.

Alzner struggled mightily as did Poti. Green didn't have a very good game either. Kundratek and Erskine were our best on an abysmal night.

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So your complaint is that Erskine, somehow knowing he would be re-signed right before a back-to-back stint, didn't condition more on his own and isn't in better shape than the rest of the team?
Is that what I said?

You brought up "flat and tired". I responded with Detroit won two games in 24 hours.

Should we remove the B2B from the schedule for the Washington Caps? Was Erskine too tired to move Simmonds? IDK - ask Adam Oates - although he has said conditioning isn't his responsibility.

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Is that what I said?

You brought up "flat and tired". I responded with Detroit won two games in 24 hours.

Should we remove the B2B from the schedule for the Washington Caps? Was Erskine too tired to move Simmonds? IDK - ask Adam Oates - although he has said conditioning isn't his responsibility.

I still don't get what you're trying to say. How is it legitimate criticism of one player to point out that another team is in better shape than the Caps? Doesn't that just dovetail with what I said, in that singling out Erskine for criticism based entirely on last night is unfair because of a team-wide issue? Holtby's praise is based on Erskine's typical play, not some outlier game where the entire team is exposed as out of shape.

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I still don't get what you're trying to say. How is it legitimate criticism of one player to point out that another team is in better shape than the Caps? Doesn't that just dovetail with what I said, in that singling out Erskine for criticism based entirely on last night is unfair because of a team-wide issue? Holtby's praise is based on Erskine's typical play, not some outlier game where the entire team is exposed as out of shape.
Okay. Nor do I get what you're trying to say. So I guess we're even.

I got the impression you were making an excuse for the Caps being flat and tired (you posted that). I merely pointed out other teams handle B2B's.

But if you feel I was singling out Erskine .......it's not the first time one player got singled out for team-wide issues.

Dare I say more because it'll be (mis)interpreted into something else. LOL

Should the Caps request removal of the back 2 backs?

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Okay. Nor do I get what you're trying to say. So I guess we're even.

I got the impression you were making an excuse for the Caps being flat and tired (you posted that). I merely pointed out other teams handle B2B's.

But if you feel I was singling out Erskine .......it's not the first time one player got singled out for team-wide issues.

Dare I say more because it'll be (mis)interpreted into something else. LOL

Should the Caps request removal of the back 2 backs?


I was not saying the Caps shouldn't have b2bs and I don't know how I could've given that impression. Again, there appears to be a team-wide issue with conditioning and/or motivation that was evident vs Philly, and that should have nothing to do with an assessment of Erskine as an individual, his contract or Holtby's comments.

Is that clear enough?

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Ok ok getta r00m!

I thought it was awesome seeing Erskine step and really try and nail someone in center ice. It may be the first time all year a Dman tried for an open ice hit like a man... ok Scott Stevens. I hope he embraces his new role as our 2LD and tries to grab the bull by the horns and lead our listless defense.

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