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02-28-2013, 01:45 PM
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IMHO people far too insecure and touchy about the city of Winnipeg here. As always. Why does this always have to happen?

Cue the defensive reactions, and subsequent attacks on Melrose.

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02-28-2013, 01:47 PM
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Im a big fan of Kane he's one of my favourite players in league to watch, sick hands and very creative, but he's not gonna be mentioned as a superstar like Crosby and (young) Ovechkin until he starts putting up 100-110 point seasons. He hasn't even cracked 90 yet. Right now he is on 100pt pace so if he keeps it up and repeats it next season then maybe he will be talked about at same level

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Meh, just another person taking a drive-by potshot at the City of Winnipeg and the people who live there.

Morons will be morons.

Next...........................

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I don't know about that. He has a few moments, but they are few and far between. Puts on sunglasses for a shootout a couple of years ago. Warmed his hands over a stick another. A handful of moments. The NHL needs guys who have enough easy charisma and looks to get frequently interviewed on late-night TV. That boys dream of being and girls swoon over. Ovi is not one of those guys. Though he did manage to catch ultra-hot Maria Kirilenko. I'll bow down to him for that.
catchin the ultra-hot usually comes down to money... easy to spot a rich guy
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Kane farts the wrong way in a restaurant and it's everywhere. Kane IS big news here, and he's not buried in a sunshine state where no one knows what hockey is.
Wouldn't that be a shart?

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I look forward to the day when Evander Kane is the legitimate "superstar" on the Jets, and forces people to notice not only him, but the city as well.

Don't laugh, his potential for superstardom is there, and if he continues to improve the way he has from last year to the present, it's not very far off. He was just an 18 year old kid, and poorly served by the Thrashers, but look how he's starting to flourish now with the Jets. I honestly believe that he and Burmistrov need only to get the right fit for the third player on the line and they will be a legitimate #1 combination and the future of the Jets for a decade.

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02-28-2013, 02:03 PM
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I look forward to the day when Evander Kane is the legitimate "superstar" on the Jets, and forces people to notice not only him, but the city as well.

Don't laugh, his potential for superstardom is there, and if he continues to improve the way he has from last year to the present, it's not very far off. He was just an 18 year old kid, and poorly served by the Thrashers, but look how he's starting to flourish now with the Jets. I honestly believe that he and Burmistrov need only to get the right fit for the third player on the line and they will be a legitimate #1 combination and the future of the Jets for a decade.
Kane would really benefit from a top notch centre or passer from the wing.

It is amazing how many of his points come after a partial line change.

He can grab points off the rush with just about anybody.

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02-28-2013, 02:06 PM
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I agree that superstar potential is still there. We consider Giroux a superstar don't we? (or pretty bloody close) He got there at what, 24? Worth noting that Kane is putting up bigger numbers than Giroux did at Kane's age, so you never know what'll happen.

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It takes more than personality to be the face of the league, ask Paul Bissonnette. As an outsider, Kane is amazing though, very, very underrated. I would kill to have a guy like him on the Red Wings.

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I can see the scenario where (over the next 5 years)...

Kane continues to develop into an elite power forward, Jets add terrific young players each year (at lower cap hits) to fill out top 9 forwards and top 4 dmen, they make the playoffs in their year 3 (in Winnipeg), and continue to add playoff experience to their growing and talented line-up. By year 6 in Winnipeg, they are legit SC challengers as Chevy has managed the cap well and 2011-2013 draft picks are now truly contributing.

With a solid line-up of young players and Kane's increasing desire to be in a 'bigger' eastern time zone market, Jets trade him (year 4 or 5 of his 6 year deal) to Columbus for an obscene package of players, prospects and picks. With that Lindros-like haul, Jets win the Cup a year or two later. .

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I look forward to the day when Evander Kane is the legitimate "superstar" on the Jets, and forces people to notice not only him, but the city as well.

Don't laugh, his potential for superstardom is there, and if he continues to improve the way he has from last year to the present, it's not very far off. He was just an 18 year old kid, and poorly served by the Thrashers, but look how he's starting to flourish now with the Jets. I honestly believe that he and Burmistrov need only to get the right fit for the third player on the line and they will be a legitimate #1 combination and the future of the Jets for a decade.
How do you figure?

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How do you figure?
I never followed the Thrashers so I can't say for sure, but I think the argument is that Kane was ill-served by rushing him into the line-up, instead of sending him back to junior hockey for another year or two.

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But I wouldn't say Kane was really that rushed. He did look ready at that time IMO.

With Burmistrov and Bogosian, it was another story. Both would have profited staying one more year in juniors. Especially Burmi!

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02-28-2013, 04:12 PM
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I never followed the Thrashers so I can't say for sure, but I think the argument is that Kane was ill-served by rushing him into the line-up, instead of sending him back to junior hockey for another year or two.
48-48-96 as a 17 year old in the WHL and was physically ready.

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02-28-2013, 04:36 PM
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I'd say that Kane and Bogosian were pretty much right on the line where they really didn't need to stay in Jr for any longer.

Kane's usage though in his rookie year is another question. Atlanta seemed to like trial by fire.

Kane came into the league and was thrown right away into tough minutes (looking at ATL F with 30+ GP):
RelQoC 0.611 (highest on team)
OZS 47.1 (middle of the pack)
Weak Linmates: most commonly with Slater and Armstrong
PPTOI: 0.34 TOI/60 (10th)

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Completely absurd statement.

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are Washington and Pittsburgh huge markets?

case closed, your honour.

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I'd say that Kane and Bogosian were pretty much right on the line where they really didn't need to stay in Jr for any longer.

Kane's usage though in his rookie year is another question. Atlanta seemed to like trial by fire.

Kane came into the league and was thrown right away into tough minutes (looking at ATL F with 30+ GP):
RelQoC 0.611 (highest on team)
OZS 47.1 (middle of the pack)
Weak Linmates: most commonly with Slater and Armstrong
PPTOI: 0.34 TOI/60 (10th)
Yeah he played third line minutes for the most part.

And Bogosian was physically ready but broke his leg his rookie year. And it seemed like more ten anything he needed the right coaching.

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48-48-96 as a 17 year old in the WHL and was physically ready.
yahi think of the three kane was the least "rushed"

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When Kane leads the Jets in winning a Stanley Cup, he'll achieve all the status he desires.

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To be frank, does Kane really need anymore media attention?!?

Seems like one week, he's being praised, the next week we're hearing trade rumors.

And that's just from Gary Lawless...

Melrose is a idiot(see his comments on Stamkos) and ESPN knows hockey?

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Melrose is a idiot(see his comments on Stamkos) and ESPN knows hockey?
It's funny, but true.

Their "talking heads" are ridiculously bad at times...

but, they have had some good people in lower positions (Tom Ward, Corey Pronman, Rob Volman)

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One very important question, lets say the Winnipeg Jets were to on a long playoff run, would that bring more respect to the city of Winnipeg and to the Jets organization.

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IMHO people far too insecure and touchy about the city of Winnipeg here. As always. Why does this always have to happen?

Cue the defensive reactions, and subsequent attacks on Melrose.
I laughed because of the accuracy of this comment.. I got mad inside when I read the summary of what Melrose was saying.

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Barry Melrose should get a job at the circus as a clown.

I am not sure why the city of Winnipeg gets so much hate from media & other cities

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