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02-28-2013, 04:40 PM
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I seriously wonder if the Avs match this.

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For CBA experts, do the Avs just have to match the 2 year 10m or do they have to match with the 2nd year being 6.5m?
Yes, it has to be exactly the same.

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Offer sheeted. The Flames have offer sheeted O'Reilly. Not signed as a flamer yet
Its in the link stating that, I'll edit title

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I still think this is possibly a 10-15 pick not top 5 pick in which case it's a very risky and mediocre return BUT I will say I'm convinced that the Avs are not going to match.

Here's to hoping they use the pick wisely.

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Thanks Calgary... finally this saga is over and he'll be back in Colorado... six days from now so Sherman/Lacroix can pretend this was a difficult situation and they made an exception on him. No way they let him go to a rival over money and for that return.

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If the Avs match, O'Reilly's QO will be $6.8M, LOL! Good going Avs!

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Calgary's done a good job of getting rid of all their picks and remaining mediocre. I'm very tempted to let them continue doing that.

$6.5M just to qualify him? So, if he becomes a superstar, great. Anything less and he can walk? Also, not sure the Avs want to be the ones paying him - say what you want about pride over business, but no one likes to be held hostage. And that's not peanuts, no matter the cap room they've got.
You could try to get him signed to a long term deal for a lower salary. But O'Reilly seems to be all about the money so it's possible he'll just accept the QO of $6.5 two years in a row and then bolt as a UFA.

There isn't any good solution here for Avs. I'm not sure if you even want a guy like O'Reilly around after all the crap he's pulled.

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What would the compensation be?

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It will all be over in 7 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lame, guess we're not tanking no more.

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LOL... Avs will match easily

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I'm so scarred now. I want them to match so badly.

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5 mil per so I think just a 1st IIRC

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1st and 3rd I believe.

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Thanks Calgary... finally this saga is over and he'll be back in Colorado... six days from now so Sherman/Lacroix can pretend this was a difficult situation and they made an exception on him. No way they let him go to a rival over money and for that return.
second year is 6.5 million.

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You guys could have two top 10-15 picks in the draft. I think you'll match though.

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1st: Potential top 5-10 pick
3rd

We definitely match, if it was two 1st then I think we let him go.

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I'm so scarred now. I want them to match so badly.
Looking at it financially and from long-term security...there is no way (IMO) this ownership/management/accounting group matches, even if you take out the bad blood that has probably developed.

I'd put the chance of matching at about 5%.

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Would O'Reilly sign an offer sheet if he knew the Avs would match?

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The dealbreaker isn't the cap hit being 5.0M. The dealbreaker will be that he gets 6.5M next season.

Avs will take the picks.

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Well I guess we got what we wanted. One way or another, this things over in a week. I think oreilly is worth more than a first and third. I also don't think he's worth $5M/yr. I think we let him walk and bank on that first rounder being a top ten.

This will sure spice up the series a bit.

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O'Reilly will have a 6.5 million QO in two years though.....I really hope we match but that fuks us over.

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So his agent was right to not take the 2 for 7 deal.

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If the Avs match, O'Reilly's QO will be $6.8M, LOL! Good going Avs!
I don't think this is right. First of all the 2nd year of the deal is on 6.5M, so Im pretty sure it is only a 6.5M QO based on that.


Secondly, I don't know how this stuff works, but Cap Geek just recently tweeted and said that if there is a Signing Bonus in the deal, then that will reduce the QO for his next deal. And there is a 2.5M signing bonus in the offer sheet.

So if Cap Geek is right, then I think the QO for the next contract would have to be either 5.25M or 3.75M, but Im not entirely certain.


Regardless, the Flames are a much improved team with ROR centering there top line. I doubt their pick is in the Top 10 with ROR, so IMO we should match this. ROR will prove himself to be worth the 5M in no time, and within 2 years he'll be worth the 6.5M QO.

We need to match.

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You guys could have two top 10-15 picks in the draft. I think you'll match though.
with a 6.5 million QO, i dont know.

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