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02-28-2013, 02:26 PM
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Poile's poor forward drafting is really catching up with us now, or Trotz poor development of offensive forwards or whatever.

Legwand and Erat have been decent on offense, they were drafted 12+ years ago. When and who is the next wave?

Looking at our draft, Poile isn't just bad at drafting offense, he's down right horrible.
I would say that all depends on how Wilson, Smith, and Bourque pan out in the next couple of years.. If they all fizzle and never become legit scorers, then you may have a point.... but right now it looks like Poile may have drafted the replacements for Fisher, Legwand and Erat

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Preds are at 23 players, Milwaukee has defensemen on the shelf so Piskula fills that role and now, what?

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Preds are at 23 players, Milwaukee has defensemen on the shelf so Piskula fills that role and now, what?
nothing... this was a move to find Mcgrattan a home and we had to take a contract back...

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02-28-2013, 04:11 PM
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Poile's poor forward drafting is really catching up with us now, or Trotz poor development of offensive forwards or whatever.

Legwand and Erat have been decent on offense, they were drafted 12+ years ago. When and who is the next wave?

Looking at our draft, Poile isn't just bad at drafting offense, he's down right horrible.
Not sure that's completely fair; Hartnell should be here except for the Liarpold dispersal and Radulov should be, too, unless you're gonna' argue we should have known he'd be a complete whack-job? But, yes, we probably need to find an Arnott/Dumont type signing to give us a little punch for the next few years, assuming we can't get that elite scorer to come.

Seems to me Smith has to be our #1C, and if Willy makes it great, otherwise Watson has to get up here no later than start of next season and we see what we got.

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02-28-2013, 06:10 PM
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again, 69 picks used on forward, make what ever excuse you want but the fact remains he sucks at drafting forwards.....

btw, there have been 8 drafts since Radulov, 12 since Hartnell.

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again, 69 picks used on forward, make what ever excuse you want but the fact remains he sucks at drafting forwards.....

btw, there have been 8 drafts since Radulov, 12 since Hartnell.
High end forwards*

He can draft 2nd/3rd/4th liner forwards all day long

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02-28-2013, 06:28 PM
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High end forwards*

He can draft 2nd/3rd/4th liner forwards all day long
or even legit scoring line forwards.

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or even legit scoring line forwards.
Yea, high end forwards (1st liners)

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again, 69 picks used on forward, make what ever excuse you want but the fact remains he sucks at drafting forwards.....

btw, there have been 8 drafts since Radulov, 12 since Hartnell.
If you really want to have some fun, go back and look at Poile's forward drafting going all the way back to the beginning his time in Washington.

Here's a hint about what youll find: Lots of fabulous defensemen, Peter Bondra, and a bunch of other...stuff.

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I'm excited to see what Aberg has to offer

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another 2 - 5 years down the road ...

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he's contracted till 2015 in sweden, wouldn't doubt if he makes strides from now till then that we see him in the NHL. watch his highlights

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With the Avs signing ROR their fans seem to think they have to deal a C - don't suppose Statsny would look bad in Pred gold in some kinda' deal for Ellis+.

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With the Avs signing ROR their fans seem to think they have to deal a C - don't suppose Statsny would look bad in Pred gold in some kinda' deal for Ellis+.
They do need a D-man badly, but it may be a premium to keep him in the west.

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03-01-2013, 02:17 PM
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With the Avs signing ROR their fans seem to think they have to deal a C - don't suppose Statsny would look bad in Pred gold in some kinda' deal for Ellis+.
Gaustad would be nice to give them for cap reasons. Ellis+Gaustad+(?)

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Stastny makes a lot of money for basically being an upgraded version of Legwand and Fisher.

I think we can do better.

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03-01-2013, 06:08 PM
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If we're going to trade for stastny and his contract backstrom is a better fit nd cheaper.

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03-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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If we're going to trade for stastny and his contract backstrom is a better fit nd cheaper.
Backstrom would be awesome, but IMO they'd trade Ovechkin before Backstrom. They should be building around him.

Stastny is such a disappointment. The 2006-2010 version of Stastny would give us that #1 scoring center we've all wanted and would set us up for years. The 2011-present version of Stastny is only a small upgrade over what we have. The gamble could pay off big time, but is probably not one we should make.

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Backstrom would be awesome, but IMO they'd trade Ovechkin before Backstrom. They should be building around him.

Stastny is such a disappointment. The 2006-2010 version of Stastny would give us that #1 scoring center we've all wanted and would set us up for years. The 2011-present version of Stastny is only a small upgrade over what we have. The gamble could pay off big time, but is probably not one we should make.
Too much baggage + his contract is an albatross if he's not scoring, if they want to trade someone I think it'll be Backstrom

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OV was the primary reason for there coaching change there last season. He is down this year and was less than a point of a game last year. They may be stuck with his contract due to his primodonna attitude.

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If we're going to trade for stastny and his contract backstrom is a better fit nd cheaper.
You get what you pay for, Washington wouldn't be asking for Fisher, Hannan, and a 3rd.

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Stastny makes a lot of money for basically being an upgraded version of Legwand and Fisher.

I think we can do better.
They can eat salary and/or we can include Gaustad in the deal to help. And Statsny is miles about Legwand and Fisher. Miles.

Backstrom and Ovi aren't getting traded. And if they were, Washington already has Alzner, Carlson, and Green, so I would assume they would want a young forward as the centerpiece. So Wilson+. Which defeats the whole point.

Colorado desperately needs defense, which is why Stastny makes sense to me. Not perfect by any means, but a perfect top 6 center wouldn't be on the trade block.

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Gaustad would be nice to give them for cap reasons. Ellis+Gaustad+(?)
I don't think that will go over so well, depending on what the plus is.

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The issue with Stastny is salay next year sign him Josi and Horni and you have about 5 mil left to sign 6 players for next year. Theres no way there going to take on a salary over 3 mil with the roster the way it is for next year.

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I have to ask, what will be the changes to spending? Preds have a 23 game sellout streak. Does this push the team toward 60 million?

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