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Who is the best fighter in Habs history?

View Poll Results: Who is the best fighter in Habs history?
Gilles Lupien 4 3.23%
Mario Roberge 9 7.26%
Chris Nilan 76 61.29%
John Kordic 31 25.00%
Todd Ewen 4 3.23%
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07-19-2006, 08:57 PM
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1- Ferguson
2- Nilan
3- Robinson
4- Bouchard
5- Rocket Richard

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07-19-2006, 09:06 PM
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Duster,if I have it right, Peter and Mario, roomates at the time,actually got into it in a hotel in St.Louis. Went thru a window as the story goes.

Peter wasn't much of a fighter, though early in his career he was willing. At the time, the Jr.CH had a tough guy named Globensky, this guy could fight. The story was that Fergy was counselling Glob. on fighting and he lectured Peter that he had too much talent and would be stupid to wreck his hands fighting every 3rd game. That's the story I got anyways.
I stand corrected. I should stop chewing all that aluminium...

I do remember Globensky. I wasn't aware about Peter M. being a willing antagonist initially. Best advice that Ferguson could give him, imo.

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John Ferguson by a country mile... Bogus poll.
When I saw the title of this thread that was the first thing that I thought as well.

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First by a long shot John Ferguson

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Ferguson was the best at doing the job of being the team tough guy. No one understood the role like he did. Purely as a fighter though, on the 60's team, when they decided to get tougher, they brought in 3 players, Fergy, Ted Harris and Terry Harper. fergy's the legend, Harper was the most willing, but Harris was the best fighter. IMO, Harris and a guy in Toronto named Orland Kurtenbach were far and away the heavy weights of the league. Fergy didn't go too near OK.
Fergy was the all-time Hab heavyweight. His tilts with Bryan Hextall are legendary.

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My vote goes to Kordic (a beast!!!!)
Normand Baron - Mr. Quebec

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FROM that list nilan

the best of all time is John Ferguson ....
Exactly. Apparently many here are too young to remember. Ferguson was a mean SOB. Nilan was good too though.

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I think we need a poll with JF on there, he'd be winning with a garanteed 80%

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Larry Robinson wasn't that great of a fighter, compared with the long players who have suited up for the CH.

Donald Brashear would have beat Larry senseless, in their primes. Robinson was roughing up middle aged men, for the most part. It was his physical presence that was terrific, not his fighting.

Kordic, Nilan.. for me the list starts and ends with these two bruisers.

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Nilan? hahahahah! You call that fighting? He would duck and somehow mix his arms around the opponants shirts and hope it ends well. He should have gone to amateur wrestling instead of hockey fighter.

Ferguson was the greatest fighter of all time.

Others include:
The Rocket
Emille Butch Bouchard
His son Pierre Bouchard
Of course, Larry

You can forget anyone from the 80s, 90s and after that.

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1. Ferguson--------easily best all time enforcer the Habs have had.

2. Nilan----------best pound for pound- with the most heart- and fearless

3. Robinson----the best all star player who could pummel people

4. Kordic------most insane--the guy looked possessed when fighting. Tragic ending.



My Dad used to tell me that the Rocket was someone nobody (except maybe Ted Lindsey) would want to p***off, and that he was a very good fighter. I never had a chance to see him though.

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Nilan? hahahahah! You call that fighting? He would duck and somehow mix his arms around the opponants shirts and hope it ends well. He should have gone to amateur wrestling instead of hockey fighter.

Ferguson was the greatest fighter of all time.

Others include:
The Rocket
Emille Butch Bouchard
His son Pierre Bouchard
Of course, Larry

You can forget anyone from the 80s, 90s and after that.
Laugh all you want at Nilan. The reason he lasted was that if he lost a fight, he'd go back after the guy until he beat him. He may not have been the best fighter but he was among the best enforcers.

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1. Ferguson--------easily best all time enforcer the Habs have had.

2. Nilan----------best pound for pound- with the most heart- and fearless

3. Robinson----the best all star player who could pummel people

4. Kordic------most insane--the guy looked possessed when fighting. Tragic ending.



My Dad used to tell me that the Rocket was someone nobody (except maybe Ted Lindsey) would want to p***off, and that he was a very good fighter. I never had a chance to see him though.
If you use the boxing pound for pound terminology,nobody was tougher than the Pocket Rocket. Early on,Boston figured the best way to drive Maurice nuts was to go after his diminutive brother. One of my favorite stories, Boston sent their 3 toughest guys,Fern Flaman, Jack Bionda, Leo Labine after him, and Henri fought all 3 and held his own.

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On that list I would take Nilan

On the Current roster,I would say Rivet.Souray is strong,but when Rivet looses it I think he can crack anyone.The fight he had with Worrell a few years ago was really something

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Laugh all you want at Nilan. The reason he lasted was that if he lost a fight, he'd go back after the guy until he beat him. He may not have been the best fighter but he was among the best enforcers.
I'm begining to wonder how many actually saw Nilan in the early 80's when he was at his peak.

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07-20-2006, 08:22 AM
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If you use the boxing pound for pound terminology,nobody was tougher than the Pocket Rocket. Early on,Boston figured the best way to drive Maurice nuts was to go after his diminutive brother. One of my favorite stories, Boston sent their 3 toughest guys,Fern Flaman, Jack Bionda, Leo Labine after him, and Henri fought all 3 and held his own.
you have me there Mcphee my only memories of the pocket rocket was as a very fast and elusive player in the late 60's early 70's. I also recall him as being very classy and a statesman cut from the same cloth as Le Gros Bill. I could not picture him being angry enough to throw a punch at someone. But I'll take your word for it you've proven me wrong in the past.

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you have me there Mcphee my only memories of the pocket rocket was as a very fast and elusive player in the late 60's early 70's. I also recall him as being very classy and a statesman cut from the same cloth as Le Gros Bill. I could not picture him being angry enough to throw a punch at someone. But I'll take your word for it you've proven me wrong in the past.
The story I told was well before my time, just legend that I read about. I think of Henri Richard as the definition of what it meant to play for the CH. He made the team would few thought he could. He was as fierce a competitor as his brother, and always wore his heart on his sleeve. In my mind, he was a bit more emotional than Beliveau.

I remember him specifically in 2 fights. He got into it with Eddie Shack, they were gripping each others sweaters when Shack head butted him. A point of contention in those days, a 40 page thread today. The other was the Rangers Vic Hadfield challenging JC Tremblay. Tremblay wanted no part of Hadfield and started to back away. I think this embarassed Henri because he jumped in front of JC and fought Hadfield. He took a beating but he wouldn't back away from anyone.

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I stand corrected. I should stop chewing all that aluminium...

I do remember Globensky. I wasn't aware about Peter M. being a willing antagonist initially. Best advice that Ferguson could give him, imo.
I was at a lot of Jr. games chanting 'On veut Glo Ben Sky' He was a Greeenfield Parker, so as teenagers we all loved him.

When ZPeter M was early in his Mtl time, he was a big open ice hitter. He could drive everyone nuts, he wasn't quick to pass the puck at times, but he was really entertaining. He would wind up for end to end rushes that wouldn't always work, but were fun to watch.

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John Ferguson...no contest

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John Kordic for me. I never saw Ferguson.

I will never forget the beat down Kordic gave Richard Zemlak in a game vs the Nordiques. This is before the Nords started sucking real bad. They had brought in Zemlak to counter Kordic's presence on the Habs.

I guess that worked real well.

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Of the players I have actually seen for pure fighting ability I would rate them as:

1. John Kordic - At his peak, until, he started to unravel, he was scary.
2. Fergie - The first, he set the standard for others to follow.
He fought with a touch of hatred in him.
3. Ted Harris - Big, mean & very tough.
4. Robinson - He didn't fight enough to rank higher imo. He would enter a
scrum & settle things down just by his presence. This cost him
1 night against Dave Hutchinson of the Kings when Hutchinson
floored him with 1 punch. Apparently he wasn't intimidated enough.
5. Brashear - One of the better fighters until he got into the bear hug routine.
This ranking is more reflective of what he did after he left the Habs,
because he wasn't with the Habs for long.

Honourable mention: Nilan of course - would be higher, but, he couldn't handle some
of the bigger heavyweights; I don't think he ever beat Playfair
even though he fought him many times.
Pierre Bouchard - despite his fight with Stan Jonathan, a very
good fighter.
Rick Chartraw - always thought he could have made his mark
if he had been a little more serious about it.
Always liked Mario Roberge as a fighter; very quick hands, not real big, similar to a Wendall Clark as a fighter. He absolutely destroyed Darin Kimble one night.

Imo, having Gilles Lupien on this poll is an insult to others. The only move he had in a fight was to grab his opponent's legs & try & wrestle him to the ice. More of a punching bag than a fighter. John Wensink absolutely owned him.

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07-20-2006, 12:26 PM
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Jeff Brubaker. One tough SOB, not sure I remember a tougher OHLer..had a cup of coffee with the Habs.

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History

Looking at the tale of the tape i can only surmise history began in the 80's lol

Knuckles is deservedly leading in the modern day but for my generation of Hab fans you would have to give the edge to John Ferguson! man i will never ever forget the toe to toe blow for blow classics he had with Keith Magnuson of the Chicago Blackhawks !
I imagine my Dad and his Dad would name others as well...

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