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Toronto and St. Louis Talking Trade? Kulemin Involved?

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03-02-2013, 01:03 AM
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Considering we are looking for the same things, I'm not getting the potential deal here.

Blues won't trade Berglund and I'm guessing Leafs aren't trading Phaneuf or Grabo
I'd be very open to moving Grabo if I was in charge. Any guesses at what the Blues would offer?

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Luckily we are dealing with the GM and not the fans.

Didn't wanna read past page 1 when i saw that Dion or Gardiner need to be involved for undersized guy who hasn't even put up solid numbers in the A let alone the NHL.

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I'd be very open to moving Grabo if I was in charge. Any guesses at what the Blues would offer?
Blues can't afford Grabo. They're working on an internal cap. Grabo hasn't reached HOBO level yet. He's still a pretty effective defensive center who can snipe once in a while. Not worth 5.5 but if he was getting 4 mil or even 4.5, no one would complain.

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I'd be very open to moving Grabo if I was in charge. Any guesses at what the Blues would offer?
I don't think he realizes Grabo's contract it just doesn't fit with the Blues. 6 million real dollars the next 2 season is a big no for the Blues then 5 million then 4.5 million.

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Considering we are looking for the same things, I'm not getting the potential deal here.

Blues won't trade Berglund and I'm guessing Leafs aren't trading Phaneuf or Grabo
grabo is someone who might be available.. depends on if we can resign bozak i guess

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As a Leafs fan, I would hope Nonis is open to trading Grabo.
Also being a Leaf fan I would hope that Nonis is open to trading Grabo AND Phaneuf if the price is right. Both were steals and also tradeable.

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03-02-2013, 01:25 AM
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I think Nonis wants Stewart

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03-02-2013, 01:37 AM
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Also being a Leaf fan I would hope that Nonis is open to trading Grabo AND Phaneuf if the price is right. Both were steals and also tradeable.
Phaneuf logs HUGE minutes who fills that void?

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03-02-2013, 01:41 AM
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The majority of Toronto fan offers in this thread are so terrible I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

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This is why I don't understand this rumor. What is Toronto willing to give that improves St Louis at the expense of Schwartz..

I can't think of one player.
That's because this is pure Andy Strickland BS. He heard Dreger say the two teams were talking. Dreger then personally speculated some names that could be involved, but the report wasn't that this was the offer.

Captain Illiteracy then bases an entire blog post citing "sources in Toronto" and turning the "rumored deal" into two names Dreger offnandedly speculated. You have to understand how poor a journalist and writer Andy Strickland is. He's a world class hack who would spell class: clas's ... this whole thing is absurd. I'm sure the two clubs were talking about something which we'll probably never discover but it's not something based around Kulemin and Schwartz because that is a purely silly idea.

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The majority of Toronto fan offers in this thread are so terrible I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I couldn't even get through 2-3 posts without a Blues fan overvaluing everything they own.

Didn't look at many Leaf proposals; but it seems like every time the blues are involved they want the moon and down on everything on any other team.

Like I said. Lucky the GMs are the ones doing the dealing. Both fanbases are probably just as far off base.

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Considering we are looking for the same things, I'm not getting the potential deal here.

Blues won't trade Berglund and I'm guessing Leafs aren't trading Phaneuf or Grabo
With the emergence of Kadri and the meh play from Grabovski(and his contract) I'm positive Nonis would move Grabovski if the right deal came along. Even though the team is thin at center as is, getting rid of Grabo's contract would surely benefit this team in the long run. Nonis would probably love a guy like Stewart. I doubt the Blues would take Grabo though, he's not an upgrade but he would provide nice depth. Kulemin is definitely the target though, he'd look great in St.Louis, Hitchcock would love em'.

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I couldn't even get through 2-3 posts without a Blues fan overvaluing everything they own.

Didn't look at many Leaf proposals; but it seems like every time the blues are involved they want the moon and down on everything on any other team.

Like I said. Lucky the GMs are the ones doing the dealing. Both fanbases are probably just as far off base.
It seems like the Leafs overvalue everything they own. Heres the thing though, last year St. Louis was second in the west and are now 4th in the west. Toronto hasn't made the playoffs since before the last lockout. One team has better players than the other.

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The majority of Toronto fan offers in this thread are so terrible I don't know whether to laugh or cry.



That's because this is pure Andy Strickland BS. He heard Dreger say the two teams were talking. Dreger then personally speculated some names that could be involved, but the report wasn't that this was the offer.

Captain Illiteracy then bases an entire blog post citing "sources in Toronto" and turning the "rumored deal" into two names Dreger offnandedly speculated. You have to understand how poor a journalist and writer Andy Strickland is. He's a world class hack who would spell class: clas's ... this whole thing is absurd. I'm sure the two clubs were talking about something which we'll probably never discover but it's not something based around Kulemin and Schwartz because that is a purely silly idea.
This rumor is as bad as the Shattenkirk/Breire rumor.


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It seems like the Leafs overvalue everything they own. Heres the thing though, last year St. Louis was second in the west and are now 4th in the west. Toronto hasn't made the playoffs since before the last lockout. One team has better players than the other.



Your team made the playoffs. We are talking player value. So if the Leafs made it this year and next......with similar finishes.....and Edmonton missed again. Would that mean Hall/RNH/Eberle/Shultz is less than Grabo/Kulemin/MacArthur/Franson?

I need some of this playoff medicine, to make my players strong!


you win. I'm done here.

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It seems like the Leafs overvalue everything they own. Heres the thing though, last year St. Louis was second in the west and are now 4th in the west. Toronto hasn't made the playoffs since before the last lockout. One team has better players than the other.
This is your logic? really?

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It seems like the Leafs overvalue everything they own. Heres the thing though, last year St. Louis was second in the west and are now 4th in the west. Toronto hasn't made the playoffs since before the last lockout. One team has better players than the other.
One team currently has more points this season than the other. I could play this ridiculous logic game too.

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I couldn't even get through 2-3 posts without a Blues fan overvaluing everything they own.
Fans (of any team) are not guaranteed to be knowledgeable. Maybe try reading the whole thread and you'd find some reliable information. It is an internet forum after all.

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Didn't look at many Leaf proposals; but it seems like every time the blues are involved they want the moon and down on everything on any other team.
This happens with every team's fanbases.

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Like I said. Lucky the GMs are the ones doing the dealing. Both fanbases are probably just as far off base.
I think we are all thankful for this.

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Another Trade Rumor between Toronto & St. Louis?

all I needed to see was it was posted by Andy Strickland

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This is your logic? really?
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Another Trade Rumor between Toronto & St. Louis?

all I needed to see was it was posted by Andy Strickland
blues are asking about liles ...likley evreryone is asking about kessel ....kulemin can play in any system ....just he got bit more money than u like ...

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Liles for 1st...

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Liles for 1st...
And....done.

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Kulemin + Gunnarsson for Stewart
This is exactly what I think the Leafs would be interested in. Stewart would fit in perfectly with what the Leafs are trying to do. Stewart is big, physical, 25 years old and a local guy. Very much a Carlyle type of player!!! Perfect fit for the Leafs.

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This is exactly what I think the Leafs would be interested in. Stewart would fit in perfectly with what the Leafs are trying to do. Stewart is big, physical, 25 years old and a local guy. Very much a Carlyle type of player!!! Perfect fit for the Leafs.
Maybe Nonis can find a way for them to take MacArthur too

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