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03-02-2013, 03:49 AM
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Only way someone gets Stastny out of Colorado is if their is some serious defensive help going the other way. Bolland and Stalberg+ won't get it done imo, neither player has much value to a team in Colorado's position.

I don't see Roy or Ribeiro being traded.

Weiss probably could be had but he has been awful this year, swapping Bolland for him may well end up being a downgrade.

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03-02-2013, 07:32 AM
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Ribeiro for one, 1 could argue Derek Roy and Stephen Weiss too.
I'd take Ribeiro, but he is not better and is older.

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03-02-2013, 07:37 AM
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People are forgetting what a quality center is outside of Toews with all this talk of Bolland being untouchable. He's a quality player, great third line guy that can play second line minutes.

But two third liners or another first line center? Quality>Quantity.

Stastny is so much more than a "second line center".

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03-02-2013, 10:13 AM
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People are forgetting what a quality center is outside of Toews with all this talk of Bolland being untouchable. He's a quality player, great third line guy that can play second line minutes.

But two third liners or another first line center? Quality>Quantity.

Stastny is so much more than a "second line center".
An overpaid and underperforming #1 center?

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03-02-2013, 10:42 AM
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Stastny for Sharp.

You have Hossa and Kane as top line wingers. We can eat some of his cap hit. No chance?

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03-02-2013, 10:51 AM
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Stastny for Sharp.

You have Hossa and Kane as top line wingers. We can eat some of his cap hit. No chance?
Sharp has NMC and wouldn't waive

And that is too much of a shakeup to Hawks core to move a guy like Sharp. Wouldn't go over well in lockeroom IMO

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03-02-2013, 10:55 AM
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Ribeiro won't be traded, Roy plays for the Stars... we are talking about JN as their GM. He wanted Saad for Grossman as rental.

There aren't many Top6 Centers available...

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03-02-2013, 10:58 AM
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I'd take Ribeiro, but he is not better and is older.
Please, we aren't talking about 3+ yrs ago ..last 2+ seasons Ribiero has out scored him by 34 pts, Stastny isn't what he used to be. Time to stop living in the past. He isn't worth near 6mil or Bolland and Stalberg.

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03-02-2013, 11:05 AM
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Sharp has NMC and wouldn't waive

And that is too much of a shakeup to Hawks core to move a guy like Sharp. Wouldn't go over well in lockeroom IMO
Figured that would be the case.

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03-02-2013, 12:58 PM
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An overpaid and underperforming #1 center?
Kane and Sharp would end that underachieving quickly.

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03-02-2013, 12:59 PM
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Please, we aren't talking about 3+ yrs ago ..last 2+ seasons Ribiero has out scored him by 34 pts, Stastny isn't what he used to be. Time to stop living in the past. He isn't worth near 6mil or Bolland and Stalberg.
Stastny isn't the problem in Colorado. He's a gamer.

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03-02-2013, 01:18 PM
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He wanted Saad for Grossman as rental.

There aren't many Top6 Centers available...
Stop stating rumor as fact.

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03-02-2013, 05:27 PM
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Stastny isn't the problem in Colorado. He's a gamer.
Hmm, Duchene and Landeskog seem to do OK. Even O'Reilly was better last year. Maybe it is the player.

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03-02-2013, 05:28 PM
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Ribeiro won't be traded, Roy plays for the Stars... we are talking about JN as their GM. He wanted Saad for Grossman as rental.

There aren't many Top6 Centers available...
..and who says Stastny is available?

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03-03-2013, 02:20 AM
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Loktionov looks great in NJ ,, Hawks should have went after him

Weiss is on outs in Florida is speculation. His poor season continues and the trade talk seems to be a distraction

Hawks might be able to buy low here with his struggles/pending ufa status

Call up Dale and clear out the last of his mistakes from system (Beach/Lalonde/Olsen) and throw in Pirri (Actual quality prospect)


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03-03-2013, 03:21 AM
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Kane and Sharp would end that underachieving quickly.
Our leading scorer is underachieving?

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03-03-2013, 03:56 AM
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Our leading scorer is underachieving?
He was referring to Stastny - if the Hawks traded for him.

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03-03-2013, 04:01 AM
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Loktionov looks great in NJ ,, Hawks should have went after him

Weiss is on outs in Florida is speculation. His poor season continues and the trade talk seems to be a distraction

Hawks might be able to buy low here with his struggles/pending ufa status

Call up Dale and clear out the last of his mistakes from system (Beach/Lalonde/Olsen) and throw in Pirri (Actual quality prospect)
You know, I wouldn't at all be surprised to actually see this happen.

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03-03-2013, 04:30 AM
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Weiss would be a quality pick up, but pricey.

Still think Goc is the guy we should go after

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03-03-2013, 09:00 AM
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Trading for Weiss completely shakes up our bottom 9. Chemistry is our biggest asset right now. No thanks to Weiss, or anyone else right now. Hawks need to keep doing what they're doing, streak or not

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03-03-2013, 09:28 AM
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Please, we aren't talking about 3+ yrs ago ..last 2+ seasons Ribiero has out scored him by 34 pts, Stastny isn't what he used to be. Time to stop living in the past. He isn't worth near 6mil or Bolland and Stalberg.
Maybe he misses him some Q?

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03-03-2013, 09:36 AM
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Maybe he misses him some Q?
Do you want to bet team chemistry, Bolland, Stalberg and 6.75mil $ on that, because I sure don't.

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03-03-2013, 10:20 AM
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Trading for Weiss completely shakes up our bottom 9. Chemistry is our biggest asset right now. No thanks to Weiss, or anyone else right now. Hawks need to keep doing what they're doing, streak or not
if we have to trade more than 1 roster player from the Bottom 6, we don't make that trade.

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03-03-2013, 10:35 AM
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Do you want to bet team chemistry, Bolland, Stalberg and 6.75mil $ on that, because I sure don't.
They can keep half the cap hit and we can get them more back if they do.

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They can keep half the cap hit and we can get them more back if they do.
If they are keeping half the cap hit, say goodbye to at least one of Saad, TT,Leddy or Hammer.

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