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03-02-2013, 02:20 PM
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game day thread against Montreal. Of course we are arguing about a guy we traded to Winnipeg a few weeks ago
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I'm also a little puzzled at the Tangradi talk. Is he some isolated occurrence of an AHL player who couldn't adjust to the NHL? Nobody "ruined" him, that is just an absurd statement.

Look at his stats, and pay special attention to 2009 - 2012: http://penguins.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474025

See a pattern there? Whenever he played in the NHL, he didn't produce. But at the same time, he was producing consistently in the AHL, improving his point pace, in fact.

The guy simply can't hack it in the NHL, plain and simple.

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03-02-2013, 02:39 PM
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I'm also a little puzzled at the Tangradi talk. Is he some isolated occurrence of an AHL player who couldn't adjust to the NHL? Nobody "ruined" him, that is just an absurd statement.

Look at his stats, and pay special attention to 2009 - 2012: http://penguins.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474025

See a pattern there? Whenever he played in the NHL, he didn't produce. But at the same time, he was producing consistently in the AHL, improving his point pace, in fact.

The guy simply can't hack it in the NHL, plain and simple.
Why are people still talking about him? He's awful. He is on the verge of being a healthy scratch on the jets.

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03-02-2013, 02:40 PM
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I'm also a little puzzled at the Tangradi talk. Is he some isolated occurrence of an AHL player who couldn't adjust to the NHL? Nobody "ruined" him, that is just an absurd statement.

Look at his stats, and pay special attention to 2009 - 2012: http://penguins.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474025

See a pattern there? Whenever he played in the NHL, he didn't produce. But at the same time, he was producing consistently in the AHL, improving his point pace, in fact.

The guy simply can't hack it in the NHL, plain and simple.
You clearly don't understand the argument people are trying to make, and it's pointless to dive into it any longer.

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03-02-2013, 02:41 PM
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Why are people still talking about him? He's awful. He is on the verge of being a healthy scratch on the jets.
Apparently he is a shining example of a potential PPG, first line NHL winger that the Penguins destroyed. I don't get it either.

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Mods need to take over and ban all posters who reference the winger who must not be named.

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03-02-2013, 02:42 PM
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Apparently he is a shining example of a potential PPG, first line NHL winger that the Penguins destroyed. I don't get it either.
Who has ever said this?

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03-02-2013, 02:43 PM
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Who has ever said this?
It really seems like something was lost in translation.

ERIC TANGRADI IS A METAPHOR.

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Who has ever said this?
Nobody to my knowledge (at least I hope not). I was exaggerating.

My point was that using Tangradi as an example of a failure in the Penguins development of a forward prospect is ridiculous, since he very clearly was producing well at the AHL level as a result of that development. He just hasn't translated that talent at the NHL level. It happens.

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'Best line in hockey' recreated.
Neal with Sutter.
Bennett on the 3rd.
Eaton on the 2nd.
Vokoun in net.

Yea its going to be a fun one tonight.
Your welcome Montreal.

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03-02-2013, 02:50 PM
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Nobody to my knowledge (at least I hope not). I was exaggerating.

My point was that using Tangradi as an example of a failure in the Penguins development of a forward prospect is ridiculous, since he very clearly was producing well at the AHL level as a result of that development. He just hasn't translated that talent at the NHL level. It happens.
As I said before, I think it's a combination of both sides of the argument. Just like with most arguments in life, both sides usually have some truth to them. The problem is people from both sides take their point of view to the extreme, and mock the people on the other side for how stupid they are for believing what they believe.

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03-02-2013, 02:52 PM
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As I said before, I think it's a combination of both sides of the argument. Just like with most arguments in life, both sides usually have some truth to them. The problem is people from both sides take their point of view to the extreme, and mock the people on the other side for how stupid they are for believing what they believe.
Fair enough.

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Anyways... changing the topic away from lost causes, I thought this was a pretty funny insight into recent Penguins lore.

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Back when Therrien was first hired, (Jen) Bullano was a PR intern with the team. Part of her job was to transcribe the coach's post-game press conference. During the public lashing, Therrien called the team "soft." But when Bullano and other Pens staff played back the tape to transcribe, they thought Therrien said "suck." So in the post-game transcript given to the media, Therrien said of the team, "They suck."

Of the two major newspapers, one ran a story with "soft" while the other ran a story with "suck." So Bullano, to her credit, went into Therrien's office the following day to apologize for the mistake - which is a scary thing if you know Therrien.

After Bullano said sorry for mistakenly writing suck, Therrien responded, "It's OK. I like your way better."
http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.ht...8090#storytime

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03-02-2013, 03:12 PM
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Anyways... changing the topic away from lost causes, I thought this was a pretty funny insight into recent Penguins lore.



http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.ht...8090#storytime
hahaha

That's great. See, if my team is going to struggle, I at least want to be entertained while they do so.

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03-02-2013, 03:15 PM
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Mods need to take over and ban all posters who reference the winger who must not be named.
We'll just automate it. Call it the "Tangradi Filter". Any time someone starts a debate about what might've been, all the posts get deleted and the posters have to drop and give us 20.

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Anyways... changing the topic away from lost causes, I thought this was a pretty funny insight into recent Penguins lore.


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We'll just automate it. Call it the "Tangradi Filter". Any time someone starts a debate about what might've been, all the posts get deleted and the posters have to drop and give us 20.
Which in Tangradi is only like 1 or 2.

Ok sorry, I'm done now.

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We'll just automate it. Call it the "Tangradi Filter". Any time someone starts a debate about what might've been, all the posts get deleted and the posters have to drop and give us 20.
Every time some one types tangradi the filter should change it to Alex stojanov.

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I'm seeing that Vokoun will be in net tonight. What the hell is up with that??

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03-02-2013, 03:29 PM
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Can someone give me ONE good reason why we would start Vokoun against the number one team in the east???

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Can someone give me ONE good reason why we would start Vokoun against the number one team in the east???
He has like a .925 SV% average against them or something.


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To have had Therrien before you guys did, I know what you're talking about. But he really changed his system drastically. Now it's a FOUR man forecheck pretty much all the time. It's exciting, lots of quality chances to score and hockey fever is finally back in Montreal after having Julien, Gainey, Carbonneau and Martin as coaches...
heh, Hockey fever never left man. We all felt the same way when we finished first in the east under Carbo.

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As a Habs fan, I was disappointed to see Vokoun starting tonight.

Fleury has a sv % of .889 in 24 games against Montreal.

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Can someone give me ONE good reason why we would start Vokoun against the number one team in the east???
Bylsma doesn't know what he is doing?

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I haven't had the chance to follow must of Dustin Jeffery since he left the Soo Greyhounds. How has he adapted to your lineup? Was a big fan of him in his OHL days.

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