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03-02-2013, 06:03 PM
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03-02-2013, 06:06 PM
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Thanks for making my pick. Baltimore selects at Pick 464 Left Winger JP Parise



Parise completes a defensive 3rd line for the Blades who's players may chip in offensively late in games. Parise wasn't the best scorer but he gave it his all every game.
Had my eye on him, very underrated. Amazingly consistent, he gave it all in every shift but only missed 17 games in a 10 year stretch. You really don't hear too much about him but he could very easily fit on any 3rd line in today's current NHL. He's the kind of guy that you wish had won a Cup.

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03-02-2013, 06:40 PM
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Acknowledging it now so they won't have to bother later!

He eats minutes, has a great all star record from earlier in his career and does have some positives I needed though.
Isn't his current career pretty much just the career of another modern leaf, cut in half?

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Isn't his current career pretty much just the career of another modern leaf, cut in half?
That is a good comparison, and that guy was nicknamed ''Mccrap'' by Leaf Nation.

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Isn't his current career pretty much just the career of another modern leaf, cut in half?
My personal opinion (while not being a fan of either of them to be honest) is that Phaneuf is better.

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03-02-2013, 10:18 PM
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Anyone out there to take a list?

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bluesfan94, list sent.

I'm due @ 2:02.

nik jr is after me.

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ck26 is skipped. PM sent to bluesfan94 who has Bubba's list

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03-03-2013, 01:12 AM
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VSX numbers:

Henrik Sedin:
103,95,84,75,72,71,71,67

Sid Abel:
100,100,92,91,77,76,75,73

Again factor in that Abel played with Gordie howe and Ted Lindsay.

I ask:

Offensively is a guy like Sid Abel that far ahead of Henrik Sedin?
Well, you're right that Abel's offensive production falls off a good deal from his 4th to 5th best seasons, and a good chunk of his offensive prime came in the weak 1940's, so the VsX numbers may overrate him somewhat. In terms of overall offensive production, Sedin and Abel are fairly close, yes. But Abel is generally drafted as a left wing in the ATD, and they are judged on a completely different scale. He also has some defensive value and was a tough, aggressive player on the boards and in the forecheck who was generally very good without the puck, none of which describes Henrik Sedin. I don't see much point in comparison, to be honest.

I like Sedin, though, and I like that you took him higher than last year because he is deserving. People who say you would be "wasting" Charlie Conacher's talent by putting him on a line with Sedin seem to be forgetting that Sedin is a better offensive player than Joe Primeau was.

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03-03-2013, 02:12 AM
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I have made a trade with nik jr for the pick after Bubba...I don't know what happened to bluesfan94 with his list. Is there anyone else who's going to be around for a while that I can also send my list to?

I will also send my list to bluesfan94

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03-03-2013, 02:22 AM
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I have made a trade with nik jr for the pick after Bubba...I don't know what happened to bluesfan94 with his list. Is there anyone else who's going to be around for a while that I can also send my list to?

I will also send my list to bluesfan94
I'll be around.

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Don't know what happened to bluesfan94......the Boston Mules pick Stefan Persson D.



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Hawkey Town picks Hap Day, coach. Next GM has been PMed.

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03-03-2013, 07:54 AM
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Hawkey Town picks Hap Day, coach. Next GM has been PMed.
Great pick. Definitely a top 10 coach in my books. His defense-first style wouldn't have fit my team though.

This book "Legendary NHL Coaches" has a great bit of info on Day's style starting on page 73: http://books.google.com/books?id=ufn...0coach&f=false

Unfortunately, the section of the book on Lester Patrick and most of the section on Dick Irvin are unavailable on google books, but I think most of the Hap Day section is there.

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Great pick. Definitely a top 10 coach in my books. His defense-first style wouldn't have fit my team though.

This book "Legendary NHL Coaches" has a great bit of info on Day's style starting on page 73: http://books.google.com/books?id=ufn...0coach&f=false

Unfortunately, the section of the book on Lester Patrick and most of the section on Dick Irvin are unavailable on google books, but I think most of the Hap Day section is there.
Thanks for the info! I think Hap Day is a great fit for my team. We are definitely a defense first team, which is the style Day coaches, but the other thing I like about him is that he will allow certain players to play a more offensive style as long as he knows his teammates will cover for him, which is illustrated by how he handled guys like Babe Pratt and Max Bentley. With Phil Housley and to a lesser extent Art Duncan on my squad, I needed a guy like that.

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03-03-2013, 11:36 AM
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When is Darth Yoda gettin skipped? We don't want him to miss his clock, but we are also eager to make our selection (both selections)

EDIT: Darth Yoda's clock expire at 2:47PM, right?

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When is Darth Yoda gettin skipped? We don't want him to miss his clock, but we are also eager to make our selection (both selections)

EDIT: Darth Yoda's clock expire at 2:47PM, right?
That is correct.

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03-03-2013, 12:25 PM
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I'll put you out of your misery, i cant decide so i'll go with Bengt-Åke Gustafsson.

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no hesitation here, we're both online but we both decided on this one as our consensus pick here a while back:

With our 14th selection, the 472nd overall in this year All-Time Draft, les Nordiques de Québec are extremely satisfy to select, from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, C/LW Fred Stanfield




''We are extremely happy and surprise to select a player of this quality this late in the draft. A very solid playmaker, Stanfield was a good mucker, while being a gritty forward. A physical centre, Fred is also versatile enough to play on the left side if necessary. A very constant player who barely miss any games during his prime, he was a fine skater and one of the hardest worker on his team. A reputation of being solid at the face-off circle, he wouldn't hurt you on the defensive side on the game either. We are ecstatic to add such a solid all-around performer this late in the draft. He will be feeding passes to Alf Smith & Gordie Drillon on our third line.''

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With our 14th selection, the 472nd overall in this year All-Time Draft, les Nordiques de Québec are extremely satisfy to select, from Toronto, Ontario, Canada, C/LW Fred Stanfield





''We are extremely happy and surprise to select a player of this quality this late in the draft. A very solid playmaker, Stanfield was a good mucker, while being a gritty forward. A physical centre, Fred is also versatile enough to play on the left side if necessary. A very constant player who barely miss any games during his prime, he was a fine skater and one of the hardest worker on his team. A reputation of being solid at the face-off circle, he wouldn't hurt you on the defensive side on the game either. We are ecstatic to add such a solid all-around performer this late in the draft. He will be feeding passes to Alf Smith & Gordie Drillon on our third line.''

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Thanks for the info! I think Hap Day is a great fit for my team. We are definitely a defense first team, which is the style Day coaches, but the other thing I like about him is that he will allow certain players to play a more offensive style as long as he knows his teammates will cover for him, which is illustrated by how he handled guys like Babe Pratt and Max Bentley. With Phil Housley and to a lesser extent Art Duncan on my squad, I needed a guy like that.
To be honest, I'm not sure if the new information TDMM provided about Day is helpful to his value here. The business about his training camps resembling prison camps is pretty disturbing. Your team is mostly made up of good citizens, but Housley and especially Brewer stick out as potential problem spots under this kind of coaching. Now, I think Brewer's conflicts with Leafs coaching are somewhat overblown, but he was definitely a free spirit who chafed somewhat under the dictatorial system in place in Toronto when he played there. It seems like you may have swapped one dictator for another.

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