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02-23-2013, 01:20 AM
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It's not so much about circling the calendar and doing something on a specific day, but more at a smarter time. There is absolutely NO WAY Ken Hitchcock wanted a retribution action late in a scoreless third. He is the coach, he is correct not to want this, and the team did a very mature job NOT responding right then and there. There are two more games with Colorado and there will be moments either early in a game or if the Blues can mount a lead in either game (or somehow trail badly) where they can respond.

It wasn't soft, it was mature. It was exactly focused on winning the game and not settling the score. That immediate game. The Blues had just finished taking penalty after penalty in the third in Vancouver and you know Hitchcock had emphasized this being something you have to practice in the regular season if you want to be disciplined in the playoffs.

Is it frustrating to fans not to have revenge bloodlust immediately slaked? Sure, but the Blues have to put the priority on getting every possible point and they did that and I'm proud of them for that.
Sure, I agree with you about the Tarasenko hit.

But what of the Backes boarding? I was at that game. The Scott was dead silent, the crowd so out of it as the Blues were getting dominated on and off the board.

Sticking up for your Captain after a cheapshot? Well hell, that's just the kind of thing that can re-energize a team. That's a SMART hockey decision in that instance, and they didn't even do it then.

It's not maturity in that instance. It is softness.

Anyone remember Pittsburgh gooning it up in a game against the Islanders? Or the 30 minutes of Detroit gooning it up in a game against the Blues in about 2002 (Shanahan being a particular ******* in that game)? Both were teams that were WINNERS.

It's like that country song: You have to know when to hold 'em, and you gotta know when to retaliate against a team on the ice because they're take exceptional advantage of your team.

It wasn't a very catchy lyric.

It's ultimately about team morale. Winners have good morale. Winners rely on each other. Winners have their team mate's backs.

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02-23-2013, 06:17 AM
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I'd like to see some of these vague *****y suggestions to spend money on players materialize into actual money or players you seem to know about being available but keep forgetting to actually mention, explain how they're acquired, hint towards where you got the idea someone had the chance to use those assets and just held out to be frugal, show something that suggests the possibility that it exists outside your imaginations...

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02-23-2013, 08:28 AM
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Keep in mind if you do retaliate, the referee is going to look at the whole play and the rest of the course of the game. I ref'd plenty of hockey games and played plenty, not that it makes me smarter or knowledgeable. Just an observation. If the Blues showed any discourse for the hit, then you probably would have seen offsetting penalties or a possibly a Misconduct on the player that made contact so not to lose control of the game. Depends on the ref, but it was a borderline hit.

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Look at some of the top spending teams that fail year after year. What about the Blues before the lockout, we were right with all the other top spenders.

How much you spend helps, but it is not that much of a determining factor into your success.
Spending money does not guarantee success. But not spending money guarantees that you will be no better than middle of the pack.

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Spending money does not guarantee success. But not spending money guarantees that you will be no better than middle of the pack.
Blues were much better than middle of the pack last year. So were the Coyotes, Panthers, Preds, and the Lightning in 2011. You don't have to be a cap team to be successful, it just makes it more difficult.

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Won't win a cup till we spend to the cap. Can't expect to win something if you aren't willing to shell out the money.
This is very true Checketts really hurt the team by taking money out of the roster and selling the whole "build from within" joke. Dave still gets money out of the team after the kickback he receives from the horrible concessions contract he made with his buddy. I hear close to 50% goes to the Blues not as bad as the Sports Service contract of the 70's and 80's where they got 90% and the Blues 10% of the concessions and parking but still a butt **** none the less.

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Spending money does not guarantee success. But not spending money guarantees that you will be no better than middle of the pack.
This is very true nice post, Mike Shanahan Sr. had the Blues salaried near the top of the league and Blues hockey was the most fun it ever was in the history of the franchise. They were a $60 million dollar payroll in the early to mid 90's can't tell me with inflation how that works out to a cap floor type team nowadays.

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