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03-03-2013, 08:49 AM
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Super 8

I wanted to make a Super 8 discussion thread since the tournament starts today, and most of us hockey fans from Massachusetts are probably a little bit interested.

The Series are:

No. 1 St. John's Prep vs. No. 8 Central Catholic
No. 2 Cathedral (Springfield) vs. No. 7 Malden Catholic
No. 3 BC High vs. No. 6. Catholic Memorial
No. 4 Austin Prep vs. No. 5 Reading

There are quite a few Hockey East commits playing. MC has 3. Tyler Sifferlen (UML), Mike Iovanna (UMass), and Casey Fitzgerald (BC). St. John Prep's Brian Pihno has committed to Providence.


CM's Liam Coughlin hasn't committed yet, but he is getting looks from pro scouts. AP's Nolan Vesey (Jim Vesey's brother) has been scouted by a few schools including UMass Lowell, but hasn't committed anywhere.

I am going to be grabbing a story on Brian Pihno for HF at the tourney as he is on the Central Scouting Report and is likely to be drafted. If anyone has any interest in following the tournament, I will have a Twitter stream of the a lot of today's action up as I am covering it for the Herald too.
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1 public makes the Super 8.

I've been saying it forever: Massachusetts needs to split the publics and the privates.

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03-03-2013, 08:59 AM
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1 public makes the Super 8.

I've been saying it forever: Massachusetts needs to split the publics and the privates.
Amen to that.

And thanks richie for the thread/info.

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1 public makes the Super 8.

I've been saying it forever: Massachusetts needs to split the publics and the privates.
Not to be a wiseacre here, but isn't the Super 8 in and of itself a split?

If a public school is good enough they should be in it. Reading won in 2008 and they deserve all the credit in the world for that. There's usually 2 or 3 every year.

If no public school can beat the 9th best Catholic school in the regular tourney, so be it.

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We have a potential upset going. No. 8 Central Catholic leads St. John's, 4-1.

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Not to be a wiseacre here, but isn't the Super 8 in and of itself a split?

If a public school is good enough they should be in it. Reading won in 2008 and they deserve all the credit in the world for that. There's usually 2 or 3 every year.

If no public school can beat the 9th best Catholic school in the regular tourney, so be it.
1 public has won it in what, 17 years?

No incentive to stay in your city and play for your own town in this system.

The point is it is nearly impossible for the publics to compete at the highest levels with the privates. So split them.

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This year is the tightest I remember with all teams having a real shot and many other non super 8 qualifying teams have beaten these teams.

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Not to be a wiseacre here, but isn't the Super 8 in and of itself a split?

If a public school is good enough they should be in it. Reading won in 2008 and they deserve all the credit in the world for that. There's usually 2 or 3 every year.

If no public school can beat the 9th best Catholic school in the regular tourney, so be it.
Did Weymouth win it 4 or 5 years ago?

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Hingham usually has a good team. They blew a 3-0 lead to Central in the play in game. Wilmington almost made it as a D2 team. There are some good public schools out there.

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Malden didn't deserve to be in up until the last two weeks of the season. They are on fire right now. Wouldn't be suprised at all to see them win it.

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Since I went to a small school in Mass. I follow the Div 3 South tournament. Where the High School I graduated from Scituate is the 20th seed and is now in the semi-finals. Playing either Pembroke or Silver Lake in the semi.

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Malden didn't deserve to be in up until the last two weeks of the season. They are on fire right now. Wouldn't be suprised at all to see them win it.
They have a tough draw in Cathedral. The Panthers are very good.

Central wins the 12pm game 4-1 over SJP

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Since I went to a small school in Mass. I follow the Div 3 South tournament. Where the High School I graduated from Scituate is the 20th seed and is now in the semi-finals. Playing either Pembroke or Silver Lake in the semi.
Pembroke vs SilverLake tonight at 7:45. SL had players on suspension when Pembroke beat them last time.

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Malden didn't deserve to be in up until the last two weeks of the season. They are on fire right now. Wouldn't be suprised at all to see them win it.
I am admittedly biased as a MC grad, but I am glad to see the defending champion in there trying to defend the title. The clearly aren't the favorite as someone else said because SC is a tough draw.

Was glad to see them roll over Archbishop Williams in the play-in. Settled some family business from my senior year when MC lost 3-0 in the Non-Super 8 Div. 1 State final.

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I'm picking BC.

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BC High beat Catholic Memorial, 3-1.

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BC High beat Catholic Memorial, 3-1.
Isn't it best 2 out of 3?

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Isn't it best 2 out of 3?
Yes BCH won the first game, 3-1. Next game is Wednesday at Stoneham.

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Malden Catholic 3, Cathedral 2 from the 3rd game. Reading and AP up net.

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1 public has won it in what, 17 years?

No incentive to stay in your city and play for your own town in this system.

The point is it is nearly impossible for the publics to compete at the highest levels with the privates. So split them.
Actually Hingham and Reading have won The Super 8 in the last 6 years. Burlington and Weymouth also
made the Title Game in the last 7 also. Didn't Charlie Coyle play on that Weymouth team?

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Actually Hingham and Reading have won The Super 8 in the last 6 years. Burlington and Weymouth also
made the Title Game in the last 7 also. Didn't Charlie Coyle play on that Weymouth team?
So 2 publics in almost what, 20 years?

Exactly. The system is rigged. Publics are not anywhere close to equal footing with the privates, and there is no incentive for talented players to stay home in this system.

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So 2 publics in almost what, 20 years?

Exactly. The system is rigged. Publics are not anywhere close to equal footing with the privates, and there is no incentive for talented players to stay home in this system.
The gap is no longer as big compared to a few select publics. You don't see too many kids from Duxbury,Hingham,Reading etc on Catholic rosters. Catholics need to keep on top in sports at 18k to attend. CM's leading scorer is from Southie and most other Catholics have talent from towns that do not have Div 1 hockey programs.

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I am back at the Super 8 tonight for the Herald. I will have a twitter feed of the CM vs. BC High game. @Richie_Murray

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The gap is no longer as big compared to a few select publics. You don't see too many kids from Duxbury,Hingham,Reading etc on Catholic rosters. Catholics need to keep on top in sports at 18k to attend. CM's leading scorer is from Southie and most other Catholics have talent from towns that do not have Div 1 hockey programs.
Eaxactly, the junior programs have leveled the playing field somewhat in the MIAA.
The Catholics are still top dogs, however the facts are the facts, two public championships in 6 years and two more publice in the finals. Thats not what I call
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