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Kane has sick hands. That is all.

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So anybody know how many less points they would have if this was when they still had ties? 10?
Under old system the Hawks would be

16-0-6

They would have 3 less pts

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Under old system the Hawks would be

16-0-6

They would have 3 less pts
Meh don't let that stuff bother you. Everyone else thought it was an amazing game and we, for whatever reason, have a few Chicago guys here.

The streak is awesome.

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Without a doubt awesome. I hope the Hawks continue the roll as long as possible.

A) To strip the Flyers franchise of additional meaning they're currently holding onto
B) Because it's awesome. Hawk fans deserve it all after suffering through the other, other Wirtz for so many years.

Bill Wirtz is the only reason I'm here. Literally. He single-handedly made me into a Penguins fan through his actions.

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The Detroit/Chicago game was amazing. I really didn't want to see it end in a shootout. I normally enjoy shootouts (I mean, I am a Penguins fan) but that game really felt like it deserved more overtime time. It definitely felt like a playoff game.

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I had the same reaction "This game shouldn't be decided by a shootout". I disagree with Pierre about the playoff hockey bit though. There wasn't nearly enough hitting or physical play compared to a real playoff game. Both teams played really conservative the whole game. Playoff games can be like that but there's almost always more intensity / animosity in playoff games between big rivals liek that.

BTW NBC great job on your "Rival Night" approach. Last week we have Philly and Washington (not rivals) and this week Chicago and Colorado (not rivals). Not the first time I noticed that this season either. Beauty!

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Without a doubt awesome. I hope the Hawks continue the roll as long as possible.

A) To strip the Flyers franchise of additional meaning they're currently holding onto
B) Because it's awesome. Hawk fans deserve it all after suffering through the other, other Wirtz for so many years.

Bill Wirtz is the only reason I'm here. Literally. He single-handedly made me into a Penguins fan through his actions.
How could you become a Pen fan after 92?

I literally cheered any team going against Pens most of my childhood as a result. 92 finals was brutal for me as a 7 yr old hockey fan

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Zolnierczyk gets four games.

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Opinions on if four games is deserved? Is it enough? Too many?

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How could you become a Pen fan after 92?

I literally cheered any team going against Pens most of my childhood as a result. 92 finals was brutal for me as a 7 yr old hockey fan
Because the home town owner was running an Original 6 franchise into the ground, routinely let great players walk instead of paying them, and blacked out all the home games so I couldn't watch them on TV with my buddies (like say, the Bulls -- which generated its huge fan base through TV first, then ticket sales). This, from a guy who was one of the richest owners in the NHL. Wirtz probably had enough money to own two teams, but said "TV broadcasts are too expensive". Bottom line: he treated fans like crap right till the day he died. I went to some games in the years before Kane and Toews and they were charging max dollars for everything, for a subpar product at the UC. Making money off the Original 6 legacy instead of with a good product (or charging less to get fans in the building since the team was mediocre most years and not on TV). It was the weakest of weak sauce.

Anyway, by the mid- to late-90s when I started watching more hockey, I got the games from ESPN. I wasn't a hockey fan back in the early 90s yet so the loss to the Pens in the Finals didn't bug me much. Who was on ESPN? The Penguins, the Flyers, the Red Wings, the Avalanche... of those teams I had the most fun watching the Pens and Avs because of the brand of hockey they played. High skill, fast, exciting. Other than C. Lemieux, no goonery to speak of.

Edit: and I sure as hell wasn't going to root for the Red Wings.


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Opinions on if four games is deserved? Is it enough? Too many?
I was OK with any result between 5 and 10 so 4 seems a little light to me but close to being right. Got no problem with it.

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He should get four just for the logo on his sweater. I do concur with the Chancellor that for the incident he deserves between 5-10. On a side note, I did see the piece on him posted in the previous thread regarding his past. What a piece of trash.

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Speaking of the flyers, next 6 games are Rangers, Pens, Bruins, Sabres, Devils, Devils. Only one weak team in there. That stretch is huge for them, already being on the outside looking in( 8th seed but others have games in hand)

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The thing with Chicago's streak, the only downside is if the streak becomes the goal and then there is a let down when it counts. I have seen it happen before, and not just in hockey.

That said it is at the start of the year not the end. In my opinion Chicago might be best served if they are not on a streak at the end of the year. Winning yes. But winning someting more like 60 or 70 percent of their games. These streaks can drain a team and they have little left when the games count in the playoffs.

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Jose Theodore is injured (torn groin, ouch), so Jacob Markstrom was recalled today by Florida. BUT, he arrived on time for the 6pm start today against Carolina, but his equipment did not. SO, goaltending coach Robbie Tallas was dressed for the first 15 minutes of this game as the backup. How cool is that?

Tallas turns 40 later this month. I guess this is a good reason why your goaltending coach should always be young-ish.



Imagine Gilles Meloche dressing under these circumstances. He turns 63 in July.

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Opinions on if four games is deserved? Is it enough? Too many?
In a full 82 game schedule, that's the equivalent of around 7 games. I think that's fine. At the very least, he's now an "offender" and has a record. So, if he does that kind of thing again in a full 82 game schedule, he'll be a repeat offender and you're looking at probably 10 or more games.

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Speaking of the flyers, next 6 games are Rangers, Pens, Bruins, Sabres, Devils, Devils. Only one weak team in there. That stretch is huge for them, already being on the outside looking in( 8th seed but others have games in hand)
Come on, the Pens aren't that weak.

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In a full 82 game schedule, that's the equivalent of around 7 games. I think that's fine. At the very least, he's now an "offender" and has a record. So, if he does that kind of thing again in a full 82 game schedule, he'll be a repeat offender and you're looking at probably 10 or more games.
Deserved. The thing is that the guy is a borderline NHL player, if not sub-borderline, so I doubt the Flyers or their fans care if it were a hundred games. The story has become a familiar one over the past few decades.

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Deserved. The thing is that the guy is a borderline NHL player, if not sub-borderline, so I doubt the Flyers or their fans care if it were a hundred games. The story has become a familiar one over the past few decades.
That's kind of the problem, isn't it? The only person this suspension matters to is Harry Zorlabulahsinnaiteniski. The fans won't miss him, the Flyers won't miss him. He's the only one that will be affected by this suspension.

This is one of those examples of maybe the coach/hockey club should get fined as well. It would, at the very least, make coaches less likely to play guys who could end up costing them money. I mean, would Laviolette even dress guys like Rinaldo if he knew that he could be fined if Rinaldo got suspended?

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Thought the Flyers had turned over a new leaf to a finesse game after last year.

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http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/

Some interesting rumors in there. Also, that the avs were trying to trade ROR to the rangers...wanted kreider , del zotto, and a 1 in return.

Also, the " many GMs think the penguins will make a deal for Iginla " . Hope that doesn't mean " we never even had a discussion with Calgary " , after he's traded somewhere else.

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Wow Florida getting manhandled.. how oh how did the Pens allow 6 goals against them

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http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/

Some interesting rumors in there. Also, that the avs were trying to trade ROR to the rangers...wanted kreider , del zotto, and a 1 in return.

Also, the " many GMs think the penguins will make a deal for Iginla " . Hope that doesn't mean " we never even had a discussion with Calgary " , after he's traded somewhere else.
Many GMs = the esteemed users of the HFBoards Penguins forum.

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