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03-02-2013, 08:10 PM
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JT Miller

I enjoy watching this kid play. It seems like Tort likes him and he is improving game by game. He looks to have a bright future with the Rangers. Great kid with a great attitude. I have a feeling he's going to continue to get better and better and play a solid role for this team. Go gettem kiddo.

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He looks a lot like.... a rookie out there. He isn't doing anything great out there and makes a ton of boneheaded turnovers/mistakes.

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He's getting there. I think he's slowly improving and is a good addition to our lineup.

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He'll gradually improve, has the drive and skillset to stay.

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I feel he'd be better served playing upwards of 20 mins a night in the AHL, but our center situation isn't allowing that unfortunately. Hopefully if Torts thinks he is actually hurting Miller's development at some point, he'll have him sent down and we'll use Boyle on the third line again.

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torts likes that he can get the puck, doesn't seem to care that he doesn't know not to pass it to the other team

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Looks like he's got NHL player written all over him... But needs time to develop and hone his game... Not worried about him but rather encouraged/optimistic.... I won't mind if he ends up back in the AHL to further his development because he'll most certainly be back in the NHL before long....

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Miller is a player. He has everything that one needs to be a quality NHLer. Will he be a second liner? Maybe, maybe not. But he's certainly going to be a very good third liner, and probably pretty soon. That said, right now, he'd be better off getting 18 minutes a game in Hartford.

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Inconsistent, but I like what I've seen from him. He's a good puck possession player with actual offensive, something this team needs. He honestly reminds me of Marian Hossa a bit. Not quite as dynamic, although he's shown flashes of great dangles, but he's big, smart, and has the two-way potential. I think he could be a 60 point player in this league.

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He kind of reminds me of Dubi

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He kind of reminds me of Dubi
I actually thought that myself, but then I started thinking "well, he's smarter than Dubi", and "well, he's a better passer than Dubi"; I thought there were just as many differences as similarities.

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Miller has done a pretty good job but I do think he should be in the AHL a bit longer. I would deal for a vet rental this yr but Miller has a spot on this team long term for sure

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He definitely has a lot of poise carrying the puck, and that is something this team has a major lack of. Not to mention he's a pretty good passer. Hopefully he can limit his mistakes as he gets some more experience.

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I actually thought that myself, but then I started thinking "well, he's smarter than Dubi", and "well, he's a better passer than Dubi"; I thought there were just as many differences as similarities.
I think that is why Sather and Tort's were willing to add Dubi in the Nash deal...they knew they had a better version of Dubi.

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He's shown that at this point in time he can be slotted into a bottom 6 forward slot much easier than Kreider. He's been a more effective physical player than Kreider--working the boards and corners better. He has things he has to work on but for a 19 year old he's been a very pleasant surprise--especially considering he struggled (like Kreider has as well) earlier this year at the AHL level. The Rangers need more production out of their bottom 6 players though and if he could pot a few more that would be helpful. So far he's stuck on those 2 goals that he scored against the Islanders.

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Miller's game translates better to the NHL than Kreider's. What worked for him in the minors now works in the NHL, but he still has trouble away from the puck bedside he seems unsure where to go and he still cant put up points.

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Please return him to the minor leagues. He is being wasted here right now. He's an impressive young player, but he needs more experience and more playing time.

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Miller is progressing well, with the trademark rookie defensive gaffes. But his transition to NHL is smoother. Torts likes him. Must be doing something right.

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03-03-2013, 02:45 PM
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You guys saying send him down must not be watching the same guy that I am...He hasn't been scoring but like I said in the original thread about him getting called up, he won't be a scoring guy at this level. He doesn't really have that sort of skillset to score 60-70 points. I think he's a really good long term 3rd liner winger, like Dubinsky was but probably more talented. Some nights, Miller looks like the best Ranger forward for long stretches of time. Some nights he makes some rookie mistakes, like every other rookie in the league.

Also not for nothing but who else is there to replace him if you send him to the minors? What forward would you rather have on the 3rd line? I think the whole "send him to the minors, let him develop forever" mindset is garbage. He's played AHL level hockey, he's won gold at the World Juniors. He's a young kid who will be a good player in the league for a long time, let's let him develop here since he isn't HURTING the team.

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Sure maybe he needs more time in the AHL to develop, but the important thing is his mentality and the fact that he wants to learn more and be better and seems to be developing as he goes in the NHL.

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Sure maybe he needs more time in the AHL to develop, but the important thing is his mentality and the fact that he wants to learn more and be better and seems to be developing as he goes in the NHL.
Another fine game from Miller vs Sabres. No goals, but they will be coming soon enough. cheers to the KID!

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You guys saying send him down must not be watching the same guy that I am...He hasn't been scoring but like I said in the original thread about him getting called up, he won't be a scoring guy at this level. He doesn't really have that sort of skillset to score 60-70 points. I think he's a really good long term 3rd liner winger, like Dubinsky was but probably more talented. Some nights, Miller looks like the best Ranger forward for long stretches of time. Some nights he makes some rookie mistakes, like every other rookie in the league.

Also not for nothing but who else is there to replace him if you send him to the minors? What forward would you rather have on the 3rd line? I think the whole "send him to the minors, let him develop forever" mindset is garbage. He's played AHL level hockey, he's won gold at the World Juniors. He's a young kid who will be a good player in the league for a long time, let's let him develop here since he isn't HURTING the team.
I agree. Sometimes I just don't get the harsh criticism of Miller. He's fit we'll into the system, plays pretty well positionally and is knocking guys off the puck and controlling it at 19.

Sure, he's not lighting up the score sheet but he's not a liability out there. He's contributing to the forecheck and what I like most about him is his size and swagger for such a young kid. You can tell he's got a good confidence about him, even on the bench he's not afraid to open his mouth and be engaged. Why not nurture that and let some of the vets show him "how to be pro"- as Torts says.

I really have no issues with Miller, enjoy watching him play and I think it's good to have some real youth in the lineup to keep things fresh in the room. That's a dynamic that is tough to quantify but means something in this league. I've been keeping a close eye on him, and I haven't been down on him at any point yet. I actually think he's close to netting a big one sooner rather than later.

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03-04-2013, 11:28 PM
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Honestly i dont dont have as much praise as others seem to have. Im not saying he is bad but i dont think he is anything special. he has had a few good games but he is kind of a grinder which is fine. i personally think kreider has a much better upside

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I got a chance to watch him quite a bit before the lockout, and the two best forwards on any given night for HFD was Kolarik and Miller earlier in the year, except that Miller has a lot of grind in his game, he enjoys a mucker's game out there. And right now he's helping the team win. Even though he's a kid, he gets it. Mentally he's already a pro, dude looks battle hardened by his demeanor, so I think he sticks and gets better, and better.

He's someone that can process information out there pretty well, you see his ability to change his role out there take on different assignments, and I really think he will get more and more responsibility out there with enough exposure. Right now he has to learn to battle mental fatigue, to the point where his instincts don't fail him, but my gut tells me JT will have a permanent roster spot carved out a ways before Kreider does.

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