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03-03-2013, 11:55 AM
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Boyes and Streit to Bruins for a Kaberle type package.

Brian Boyle to Bos for Caron.

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No thanks to Heatley, he has slowed down over the years and only wants to unload one timers, dosen't go to the dirty areas anymore.If he couldn't produce while playing with Joe Thornton he ain't going to produce here.

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Heatley would be interesting but he is the opposite of Ryder when the playoffs or big games start; I had a mancrush on him at one time but an NHL person told me he is more concerned with shooting the puck instead of all the other ' hockey stuff'. He pretty much took him apart- I was crushed...If was the definition of anti Bruins. I told WBC8 about him but we still worked out a deal in the SIM (where he is a very good player, the person who does the grading apparently never got the memo)

I'd say if Horton goes down then you shop here but otherwise I'd rather go look at the bottom teams for the Matt Hendricks of the world who can make a difference on the fourth line, elevated their game in the playoffs like last year, will make teams fight for every lose puck and inch of ice, and only cost you a Caron or a second rounder. Caron for Hendricks....wierd but if he doesn't step up in the next couple of weeks this is the type of deal you look for.

Ottawa with their rag tag group the other night made me think, damn it, all things equal give me a bunch of players who can skate, forecheck, take the body, and attack on that fourth line if that is what it takes before blowing up your future for some former star who has a Fat Head contract with the NHL.
Ive actually already traded Heatley ..... he is great in the SIM but he sulks and it affects the teams Morale. He had like 1 goal in 10 games for me.

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Boyes and Streit to Bruins for a Kaberle type package.

Brian Boyle to Bos for Caron.
Do we have another Caron who is like three times better than Jordan?

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I realize he's a UFA, but even knowing that I have no idea why Anaheim would trade him when they could come of that conference.

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With the B's recently scouting the Ducks/Wild, what would people think about them bringing in Dany Heatley?

Obviously, he's not the player he once was (I don't think they'd be expecting that), but could he be the player Ryder was in 2011?

Consider...
-He's still got that devastating shot. Wrist, slap, one-timer, tips... and has 7 goals on the season (same as Horton and 1 more than Ryder).
-He's a big body (6'4 220) and while he isn't a big hitter, he is good along the walls, protecting the puck, and he's excellent in front of the net.
-He's a left shot (something I think our PP needs more of).
-He can play both LW and RW and can slide up the lineup for injuries if need be.
-He has a history with Chiarelli and is familiar with Chara and Kelly from their Ottawa days together.
-He'd also probably be cheap to acquire because you'd have to buy him out for $3m at the end of the season.

IMO, the B's have two needs: a 2nd pair Dman for when Sidenberg goes back with Z, and a forward with some skill and size. The B's don't have the assets to hit them both out of the park, so one of them will have to be of the Brian Rolston/low-rent variety.
I thought about this, Bill, but my concern is his lack of interest. I know he is second in goals, but from what I've seen, they (fans) want him far away and soon. I think Cullen, despite not being a scoring winger, a much better option. Strong on defense and lefty, could really help the third line.

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I'm wondering if Chiarelli will try to get Briere and see how productive he'd be on the third line. Because right now he isn't a person I would get and put on an already solidified line.

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I'm wondering if Chiarelli will try to get Briere and see how productive he'd be on the third line. Because right now he isn't a person I would get and put on an already solidified line.
Unless you can get him to waive NMC and convince JJ to write a big compliance buy out check this summer, Briere is not coming to Boston. Too many variables involved.

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Instead of gunning for Iginla, for whom Calgary will ask for the moon, why not target Mike Cammalleri? He was a beast for Montreal in the playoffs. He is too old to be an important piece for Calgary. Maybe offer them something like Caron and a 2nd (I suck at the proposal part). Thoughts?
Sounds good if that 2nd is a 3rd and they (Calgary) pay for 2mil per year of the remaining 2 years or the B's buy him out (depending on his performance) at the end of this season.

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I agree 100pct with your needs Bill. But, I'm not limiting my options to a winger. In fact, my preference is toward a LH Shot
center who can play between Peverly and Kelly. Kelly has been everything Ottawa fans told us he would be. He just doesn't have
the hands to be a center. Or, the creative offensive instincts needed. I don't really see a fit right now. Weiss has had a terrible year so far. Derek Roy is a smurf. But, he has experience and is a ufa at the end of the year.
Derek Roy would be the ultimate. People that like little guys like Brier or St.Louis would love this guy. Never quits and is money in the playoffs. Yes, he is small, but so what. He makes stuff happen just like St.Louis. UFA next year too if he doesn't work out. Wonder how much would it take to pry away from Dallas? Probably too much. But worth the try. He would even make Kelly a 20 goal scorer.

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Boyes and Streit to Bruins for a Kaberle type package.

Brian Boyle to Bos for Caron.
Boyes & Streit would be great, but I'm not sure Streit would be available. Boyes & Vishnevski would be a good option though. Lubo is playing OK eventhough he doesn't want to be there, and Boyes might rediscover himself in Boston again kinda like Rolston did last year. Both wouldn't cost much and the Isles still owe us future considerations. If Chia can't get Roy, this would be a great option.

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Pierre Marc Bouchard is UFA hmm. I figured they were just tired of the concussion/injury problems and thought he had lost something along the way. He is more than skilled enough to play here, but I wonder if he has the grit......
He's one more hit away from going the route of Marc Savard.

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Vinny Prospal for 3rd line left wing. He has 7 goals and won't be expensive either.

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don't know what it would cost but what about Mcginn from Colorado? Guy is young,plays a physical game and from when Lang was out he was putting up good offensive numbers

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Some UFA forwards that come to mind (since I think someone asked):

Alexander Semin (Car) 7mil
Jarome Iginla (CGY) 7mil
Corey Perry (ANA) 5.325 mil
Daniel Afredsson (OTT) 4.875 mil
Jaromir Jagr (DAL) 4.550 mil
Teemu Selanne (ANA) 4.5 mil
Marc Pierre Bouchard (MIN) 4.080 mil
David Clarkson (NJD) 2,666,667 mil
Milan Hejduk (COL) 2 mil

Can't see Semin, Alfredsson, Selanne, or Clarkson being moved. Not sure about Bouchard or Hejduk? Could see the possibility of Iginla, Jagr, and Perry.

Not sure what it would take to pickup Ignila, Jagr or Perry or Bouchard or Hejduk. I think we might be able to get away with out trading one of our top 6 for Iginla, but I could be wrong? Perry would cost us one of our top 6.

Also, as a side note if we put Savard on LTIR next season, sign Tuuka to 5.5m/yr and let Horton and Ference walk next year but sign a D at Ference's current salary this year (2.5 mil) we would have up to a little more than 7.5 m in cap space I believe.

* Danny Heatley is signed through next season. Cap is 7.5 mil...
Was me that asked, thanks. Can't see it being anyone from here other than Jagr.

I'll expand the list with guys that are possible:

Hecht
Boyes
Prospal
Hejduk
Kobasew

Clitsome
Hainsey
A Aucoin
Leopold
Regehr
Streit
Visnovsky


I think it's that sort of guy(s) we'll see. One or 2, and the second guy will probably be less "impressive" than the guys listed here. And imho it would be enough. This is pending good health (knock on wood 7 times).

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A few other UFA/RFA and some other forwards (mostly from non contenders/playoff teams) that may/may not work. Not sure if all would be available or work on the B's.

Stephen Weiss (FLA) 4.1 mil UFA. 80gp - 28g, 76gp - 21g, 80gp - 20g (last 3 season). Career highs 28g/61pts. About a 52 pt guy on average.

Steve Sullivan (PHX) 2.6 mil UFA. 82gp - 17g, 44gp -10g, 79gp - 17g (last 3 season).. Career highs 31g/68pts but back in 2006. 17g/51 pts in 09-10.

Dustin Penner (LA) 3.25 mil UFA. 82gp - 32g, 81gp - 23g, 65gp - 7g (last 3 seasons). Career highs 32g/63pts. (last 3 seasons). About a 40-45g pt guy on average.

Bryan Little (WIN) 2,383,333 mil RFA at the end of the season. 79gp - 13g, 76gp -18g, 74gp - 24g (last 3 season). Career high 31 g/51 pts. About a 40/45 pt guy on average.

Blake Wheeler (WIN) 2.65 mil RFA at the end of the season. 82 gp - 18g, 81gp -18g, 80gp - 17g (last 3 season). Career high 21g/64 pts. About a 45 pt guy on average.

Lee Stempniak (CGY) 2.5 mil signed through next season. 80gp - 28g, 82gp -19g 61gp -14g (last 3 seasons). Career high 28g/48 pts. About a 35 pt guy on average.

Devin Setoguchi (MIN) 3mil signed through next season (3.25 mil). 70gp - 20g, 72gp - 22g, 69gp - 19g (last 3 season). Career highs 31g/65pts. About a 40pt guy on average.

Alexander Steen (STL) 3,566,667 mil signed through next season. 68gp - 24g, 72gp - 20g, 43gp - 15g (last 3 season). Career highs 24g/51pts.

Matt Moulson (NYI) 3 mil signed through next season (3.9mil). 82gp - 30g, 82gp -31g, 82 - 36g (last 3 season). About a 55pt guy.

Curtis Glencross (CGY) 2.5 m signed through 2014-15. 67gp - 15g, 79gp - 24g, 67gp - 26g (last 3 seasons). Career highs 26g/48 pts. About a 40 pt guy on average.

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A few other UFA/RFA and some other forwards (mostly from non contenders/playoff teams) that may/may not work. Not sure if all would be available or work on the B's.

Stephen Weiss (FLA) 4.1 mil UFA. 80gp - 28g, 76gp - 21g, 80gp - 20g (last 3 season). Career highs 28g/61pts. About a 52 pt guy on average.

Steve Sullivan (PHX) 2.6 mil UFA. 82gp - 17g, 44gp -10g, 79gp - 17g (last 3 season).. Career highs 31g/68pts but back in 2006. 17g/51 pts in 09-10.

Dustin Penner (LA) 3.25 mil UFA. 82gp - 32g, 81gp - 23g, 65gp - 7g (last 3 seasons). Career highs 32g/63pts. (last 3 seasons). About a 40-45g pt guy on average.

Bryan Little (WIN) 2,383,333 mil RFA at the end of the season. 79gp - 13g, 76gp -18g, 74gp - 24g (last 3 season). Career high 31 g/51 pts. About a 40/45 pt guy on average.

Blake Wheeler (WIN) 2.65 mil RFA at the end of the season. 82 gp - 18g, 81gp -18g, 80gp - 17g (last 3 season). Career high 21g/64 pts. About a 45 pt guy on average.

Lee Stempniak (CGY) 2.5 mil signed through next season. 80gp - 28g, 82gp -19g 61gp -14g (last 3 seasons). Career high 28g/48 pts. About a 35 pt guy on average.

Devin Setoguchi (MIN) 3mil signed through next season (3.25 mil). 70gp - 20g, 72gp - 22g, 69gp - 19g (last 3 season). Career highs 31g/65pts. About a 40pt guy on average.

Alexander Steen (STL) 3,566,667 mil signed through next season. 68gp - 24g, 72gp - 20g, 43gp - 15g (last 3 season). Career highs 24g/51pts.

Matt Moulson (NYI) 3 mil signed through next season (3.9mil). 82gp - 30g, 82gp -31g, 82 - 36g (last 3 season). About a 55pt guy.

Curtis Glencross (CGY) 2.5 m signed through 2014-15. 67gp - 15g, 79gp - 24g, 67gp - 26g (last 3 seasons). Career highs 26g/48 pts. About a 40 pt guy on average.

Weiss is only guy that would interest me off that list

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Blake Wheeler would make a ton of sense as an upgrade for the third line.

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Jason Chimera from Washington might be another attractive piece, if Washington were willing to move him. I expect they might be for the right price. He has one year left on his contract, for low end money. Has size and grit.

I really like the idea of Mark Streit on defense, but I'm thinking we'd need to move a defense man to make that work; either that or sit Ference or McQuaid.

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Blake Wheeler would make a ton of sense as an upgrade for the third line.

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Never get Wheeler Bruins fans hate but other teams like- cost would be ridiculous, Brian Boyle would be outstanding for Caron. Good playrt

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Chiarelli just giving lip service, he will go out and get some broken down circus dog.
Hey Chi spend some money and get some talent!

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Chiarelli just giving lip service, he will go out and get some broken down circus dog.
Hey Chi spend some money and get some talent!
Like Peverley and Kelly??

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Boyes & Streit would be great, but I'm not sure Streit would be available. Boyes & Vishnevski would be a good option though. Lubo is playing OK eventhough he doesn't want to be there, and Boyes might rediscover himself in Boston again kinda like Rolston did last year. Both wouldn't cost much and the Isles still owe us future considerations. If Chia can't get Roy, this would be a great option.
I'm very curious. In a league that has a shortage of quality, top 4 d-men, why would the isles trade their biggest trade chip cheaply?

When you mention the NYI owing Boston futures... are you talking about the TT trade? The isles owe the B's a 2nd rounder if TT plays one game.

Snow got a 1st for Campoli. Last season Quincey bought back a 1st. I don't expect Snow to have much trouble squeezing a late first out of some team for Vis. Lubo won't carry the big caphit into 2013-2014 that JayBo will and he's healthier then Whitney.

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Matt Moulson (NYI) 3 mil signed through next season (3.9mil). 82gp - 30g, 82gp -31g, 82 - 36g (last 3 season). About a 55pt guy.

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You can cross Moulson off your list. He's making a dirt cheap $3m+ and has scored 107 goals in his last 267 games. Isles don't dump players who produce, while playing on cheap contracts.

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Like Peverley and Kelly??
Like them two guys are doing something this season?

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