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03-03-2013, 05:46 PM
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St. Louis Blues: Mentally fragile?

It seems to me that the Blues are very mentally fragile.

The seem to give up goals in pairs.

They practically quite playing after the Cracknell no-goal today.

Am I seeing things? How do we fix this?

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03-03-2013, 06:28 PM
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They're incredibly fragile. I think that's why they play so poorly with Elliott this year, they know he's giving up soft goals left and right and they don't have the ability to brush it off and push harder. The lack of fight as a team collectively is disheartening.

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In their defense, even the most mentally stable of teams would be getting killed by Elliott. You cannot win when your goalie has a .850 save% and is allowing 4 goals a game. I don't care who you are. Yes there are problems with the team as a whole but Elliott needs to take blame for his own piss poor performance. Of course it's gonna degrade the team when he allows weak goals (like today's 2nd goal).

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In their defense, even the most mentally stable of teams would be getting killed by Elliott. You cannot win when your goalie has a .850 save% and is allowing 4 goals a game. I don't care who you are. Yes there are problems with the team as a whole but Elliott needs to take blame for his own piss poor performance. Of course it's gonna degrade the team when he allows weak goals (like today's 2nd goal).
But it isn't just when Elliott is in goal. It goes beyond that.

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But it isn't just when Elliott is in goal. It goes beyond that.
It mostly when Elliot is in goal though. When Halak is in goal, we have been able to bounce back and ignore a recent goal against much more frequently like the game against Edmonton.

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It mostly when Elliot is in goal though. When Halak is in goal, we have been able to bounce back and ignore a recent goal against much more frequently like the game against Edmonton.
But the Edmonton game is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Edmonton scores at 17:30 in the first period. Then, 23 seconds later, Edmonton scores again. Can't blame that on Elliott.

Did the Blues regroup? Yes. But immediately after giving up a goal, they collapsed mentally, played very poor hockey the following shift, and gave up a second goal.

That is what I'm talking about: the five minutes or so following something going bad.

It happened again today, with the first then second goal by Dallas. But again later, after the goal by Cracknell was waived off.

You may be correct that it happens more with Elliott in goal than Halak or Allen, but in my opinion that is nothing more than correlation, not causation.

Has Hitchcock gone too Zen on the guys?

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In their defense, even the most mentally stable of teams would be getting killed by Elliott. You cannot win when your goalie has a .850 save% and is allowing 4 goals a game. I don't care who you are. Yes there are problems with the team as a whole but Elliott needs to take blame for his own piss poor performance. Of course it's gonna degrade the team when he allows weak goals (like today's 2nd goal).

Bingo!

And if players stopped "buying in" to Hitchcock, it probably occurred when he was doing everything he could to tapdance around the terrible play of Elliott to point his finger at the rest of the team. He lost a ton of credibility in my eyes during that stretch.

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But it isn't just when Elliott is in goal. It goes beyond that.
This.

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Yes they are, just watch when something in the game doesn't go their way. You can see their attitude change followed by their game going down the crapper. Heaven forbid they face some adversity and overcome it. I think the expectations went to their head, they think they can rely on skill instead of the hard work mindset that was successful last yr.

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Glad I'm not the only one that sees this. The Blues will take the lead then the other team will tie it up and all hope is lost. They'll quit taking the fight to them and play to the other team's game and that's not how you keep to your winning ways.

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They played the same fragile way in front of Halak to start last season. One soft goal and they'd quit. It is the reverse of Halak/Elliott this year.

Yes, they are fragile. This core has won one playoff series in the 5+ years it has played together. They are mentally soft and David Backes as captain has been captain for too long to dodge the fact that he and his teammates are mentally soft.

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