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02-26-2013, 04:55 PM
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Also from Helene:

"...says Mitchell "said something fairly positive" to our trainer"


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02-26-2013, 05:01 PM
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Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) Therapy- is a treatment used by many athletes (and there were articles that listed them)

It's:

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http://www.rothmaninstitute.com/spec...ma-therapy-prp

Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) Therapy is a procedure that is used in conjunction with other conventional treatments such as physical therapy to help heal damaged tissue.

The procedure involves the use of a patientís own blood; specifically, a physician takes blood and places in a filtration system that breaks down red blood cells from the platelets that release proteins and other particles involved in the bodyís healing process. The remaining substance is highly concentrated with these platelets and, when injected in to the damaged body part, helps foster new soft tissue or bone cell growth.

It is currently being used to treat elbow tendonitis, patellar tendonitis, as well as some acute muscle tears

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02-26-2013, 05:01 PM
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Hopefully we can trade him before word gets out, too risky, I thought his knee was risky but this is a whole new level. We need to get rid of him as soon as we can. We might not get anything for him if we wait too long.
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Its a high risk High reward for any team that wants him, if there are teams desperate enough, which there probably is, I would see them taking him.
This is god damn crazy talk, plain and simple. Its used car salesmen hackery. Its Tambellini-esque.

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02-26-2013, 05:03 PM
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I'm glad. It would be nice if they could get that out of the way

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02-26-2013, 05:06 PM
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This is god damn crazy talk, plain and simple. Its used car salesmen hackery. Its Tambellini-esque.
It's a traveshamockery!

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02-26-2013, 05:07 PM
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Why do you think we'd get anything for him? He's a 35+ contract and hasn't played yet this season. The guy counts against the cap no matter what (I think he'd count even if he died IIRC from the CBA) so any team taking him on would be stuck with his hit even if he retired. What team is going to trade anything of value for him when he won't even play?
No you can get LTIR relief which is what the Flyers are doing with Pronger. You still have to pay him but you can replace him and go over the cap. But no team wants an over 35 to retire on them because then you are screwed. Have not read the new CBA but that is how the old one worked and if it had changed I'm sure there would have been stories about it.

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02-26-2013, 05:08 PM
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I'm glad. It would be nice if they could get that out of the way


Yes please, Bring back Scuds.

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02-26-2013, 05:19 PM
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So, basically Mitchell is blood doping, AKA blood packing. Interesting, and makes a lot of sense. I assume the league has no problem with this as long as the guy is rehabbing an injury?

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So, basically Mitchell is blood doping, AKA blood packing. Interesting, and makes a lot of sense. I assume the league has no problem with this as long as the guy is rehabbing an injury?
He needs to be careful, or else Dick Pound will start shaking his fist over this.

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Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP) Therapy- is a treatment used by many athletes (and there were articles that listed them)
Things like this makes me wish I could get a job with the Kings when I'm done this nursing program

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Isn't PRP what Kobe did over in Germany?

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02-26-2013, 06:46 PM
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Isn't PRP what Kobe did over in Germany?
Pretty sure PRP is what Dwight Howard recently did when he got his shoulder injury.

Yep it was Howard.

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Los Angeles Lakers center Dwight Howard flew out of Los Angeles at noon PT Saturday after undergoing platelet-rich plasma (PRP) therapy on his ailing right shoulder in the morning.
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02-26-2013, 08:48 PM
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I'm glad. It would be nice if they could get that out of the way
Yes please! Three years preferably. He's a monster.

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02-26-2013, 08:55 PM
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So, basically Mitchell is blood doping, AKA blood packing. Interesting, and makes a lot of sense. I assume the league has no problem with this as long as the guy is rehabbing an injury?
Blood doping is illegal because it's improving athletic performance, with the usage of increased red blood cells.

PRP breaks down the blood cells to release proteins and heal damaged tissues.

They're fundamentally opposite from each other both in procedure and purpose. The only thing they have in common is blood.

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02-26-2013, 09:31 PM
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I have the mindset that WM is out for the year. Anything to change that would be awesome, but I'm not expecting it.

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02-26-2013, 10:37 PM
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No you can get LTIR relief which is what the Flyers are doing with Pronger. You still have to pay him but you can replace him and go over the cap. But no team wants an over 35 to retire on them because then you are screwed. Have not read the new CBA but that is how the old one worked and if it had changed I'm sure there would have been stories about it.
I said retired. You don't get LTIR if he retires.

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Yes please! Three years preferably. He's a monster.
No thanks. He'll be 35 by the middle of next season, I'd be very leery of a 35+ contract (see Mitchell). One year preferably, two maximum. Frankly, as assume as he is, I'd rather let him walk and go after someone else in UFA. For the $3.5 mill we are paying him in a season in which the cap is dropping a large amount, we likely could get an equal or better replacement for the same salary.

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02-26-2013, 11:02 PM
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I say he takes less and stays. He seems like that kind of guy. Hopefully.

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02-27-2013, 12:21 AM
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Yeah, looks like someone beat me to it.

Here is the post on the Lombardi thread I made. Also, another link on PRP.

At least we now know what Mitchell is dealing with, and not that bull-**** rumor about a concussion a couple of days ago.

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He mentioned that it had to do with "rich plasma therapy," which when he was originally talking about it, I thought it might be draining the knee, as some NBA players have had.

In researching "rich plasma therapy," I came upon this article. DL said Mitchell was responding well to it, and that Mitchell told him he felt better after the procedure.

This is good news, and we'll see where it goes from here. It sounds similar to what Andrew Bynum had for the Lakers either last season or the season before, but he was playing at the time and he had the procedure between games.

Will post a link to this post from the Mitchell thread.

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02-27-2013, 07:54 AM
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I say he takes less and stays. He seems like that kind of guy. Hopefully.
Why would he? If he's gone the whole defense is in peril as he's the oldest guy. Doughty and Voynov are great but still young and make more mistakes.

People on the Flyers board thought Timonen would sign for 4-4.5 but he signed for 6 million next year and he's a +35. He took a $300,000 pay cut.

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02-27-2013, 08:58 AM
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Why would he? If he's gone the whole defense is in peril as he's the oldest guy. Doughty and Voynov are great but still young and make more mistakes.

People on the Flyers board thought Timonen would sign for 4-4.5 but he signed for 6 million next year and he's a +35. He took a $300,000 pay cut.
The D is not in peril without Scuderi. We could replace him with about the same money in UFA, unless there is absolutely no one available that is a similar skillset, which I doubt. If there's any one position you can get at a decent price in UFA, it's stay-at-home, blue collar defensemen. We should know, we grabbed Scuds adn Mitchell as UFA's.

Without Scuderi (and assuming Willie is gone as well and 44DD leaves as a UFA), our D is still DD, Voynov, A-Mart, Greene, Ellerby, Muzzin. That's an ok top 6, and we could then use Scuds money to bring someone else in if we feel we need an upgrade.

Let's also not forget Scuderi has a gun to his head a bit too considering he would (I believe) be signing a 35+ contract and the cap is falling by almost $6 million next season, so the market for him very well may not be as lucrative as we may think. He'll get a contract for sure, but the offers in UFA may not be any better (or even worse) than what LA could offer.

I'd do 1 year at $3 million or look elsewhere honestly.

As for Timonen, he had a few factors working in his favor. Firstly, he's made it clear that he has no issue with hanging up his NHL skates and heading back to europe. THN did a whole piece on him and how he'd like to return to europe before his career is done, and considering he's 37 now, that won't be to far away.

Secondly, he's an offensive defensemen. There's a reason guys like Brian Campbell get twice the money of a Willie Mitchell/Rob Scuderi in UFA; points sell. Yet which is a the worse overall defenseman of those three?

Timonen had way more leverage.

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02-27-2013, 11:13 AM
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The D is not in peril without Scuderi. We could replace him with about the same money in UFA, unless there is absolutely no one available that is a similar skillset, which I doubt. If there's any one position you can get at a decent price in UFA, it's stay-at-home, blue collar defensemen. We should know, we grabbed Scuds adn Mitchell as UFA's.

Without Scuderi (and assuming Willie is gone as well and 44DD leaves as a UFA), our D is still DD, Voynov, A-Mart, Greene, Ellerby, Muzzin. That's an ok top 6, and we could then use Scuds money to bring someone else in if we feel we need an upgrade.

Let's also not forget Scuderi has a gun to his head a bit too considering he would (I believe) be signing a 35+ contract and the cap is falling by almost $6 million next season, so the market for him very well may not be as lucrative as we may think. He'll get a contract for sure, but the offers in UFA may not be any better (or even worse) than what LA could offer.

I'd do 1 year at $3 million or look elsewhere honestly.

As for Timonen, he had a few factors working in his favor. Firstly, he's made it clear that he has no issue with hanging up his NHL skates and heading back to europe. THN did a whole piece on him and how he'd like to return to europe before his career is done, and considering he's 37 now, that won't be to far away.

Secondly, he's an offensive defensemen. There's a reason guys like Brian Campbell get twice the money of a Willie Mitchell/Rob Scuderi in UFA; points sell. Yet which is a the worse overall defenseman of those three?

Timonen had way more leverage.
Timonen has repeatedly changed his tune when it came to his future. This has been going on for the past 2 or 3 seasons.

The Kings' defense without Mitchell and Scuderi looks great with the top 2 guys but it falls off after that. I think Scuderi has more leverage than you think.

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Timonen has repeatedly changed his tune when it came to his future. This has been going on for the past 2 or 3 seasons.

The Kings' defense without Mitchell and Scuderi looks great with the top 2 guys but it falls off after that. I think Scuderi has more leverage than you think.
He's said many times he wants to return home and play before his days are over. The closer he gets to 40, the more leverage he has.

You may be right about Scuds having leverage, but I don't agree our defense falls off after the top two guys. I think Drew, Voynov and A-Mart are all top 4 caliber defensemen, and Greene is a legitimate #5, so he's not far out of place being bumped up to the second pairing. A 3rd pair of any of 44DD, Ellerby, Muzzin, or some vet grabbed in UFA is fine.

I'm fine with Scuds coming back, and we'd be better with him for sure, but it's not like our D falls apart without him.

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What is the word on Willie Mitchell?

Wings fan coming in peace.

Noticed he still hasn't played this season.

Anyone know anything going on? He was always one of my favorite non-wings.


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He's been cleared to play, but no timetable for his return.

(Hasn't practiced with the team, and is believed to be coming back when he feels he's ready to come back. Take from that what you will.)

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