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03-04-2013, 11:28 AM
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Why did Richards even see the ice after getting clocked?

I can't say he was any worse than usual - his passing decisions were weak and he shoots into defenders' skates.

We have a problem with forced passes and the patty-cake [hot-potato?] passes that don't do anything but waste time.

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03-04-2013, 11:30 AM
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so whats a good enough sample size? 3 or 4 straight years of bad power play?
Are you ready to write off Callahan as a net-front presence too? He's been out in that role on a mediocre powerplay just as frequently.

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03-04-2013, 11:30 AM
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I disagree with you guys, even though we scored twice on the PP with Richards out, this doesn't mean our PP is suddenly awesome without Brad. Very small sample size.

PP #1 - Gaborik Callahan Nash with Richards and MDZ on the point
PP #2 - Hagelin Stepan Nash with Staal and Girardi on the point

The lockout is the reason for Richard's poor play so far this year, but it's wayy too early to write this guy off on the PP. Give him time, and Nash, and we'll be fine on the PP. Ultimately, it's not about whether or not having Richards out there, it's all about Nash. If he's on the ice on the PP, our chances of scoring are obviously much greater.
hey stick him out there..just not at the point...because he's not good at it and hasn't been at any point during his time with the rangers

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03-04-2013, 11:31 AM
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Before posting a new thread please go back and look around for an old thread to bump! There are too many new threads being made that can easily go in with others!

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Never.
Anyway.
I think we need someone else there. Don't take Brad out but maybe rotate them to different positions. Might work.

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03-04-2013, 11:33 AM
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Are you ready to write off Callahan as a net-front presence too? He's been out in that role on a mediocre powerplay just as frequently.
richards struggles have gone back to the day he joined the team

not my fault dude...youre the admitted apologist, get real and watch the game, richards is near embarrassing out there

what im saying is not crazy,

crazy is doing the same thing over and over with poor results

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03-04-2013, 11:35 AM
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To me it's hard to argue that Stepan should be on the ice and not Richards on the PP, and don't argue that since Step scored last night on the PP he should be out there (that play was all Nash). A struggling Richards is still better on the PP than Stepan, especially with Nash out there because Richie can set Nash up. Step can't do that

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03-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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we've been doing the same thing since last year, it clearly doesnt work

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03-04-2013, 04:43 PM
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Here's something weird. Over their last 11 games, after that horrible 0-for-5 performance against the Devils, the Rangers are converting at 19.4%, which would be 11th in the league.

Obviously, that number gets pushed up by a bunch because of the 2 we scored last night (it drops to 15.6% if you go to 10 games leading into last night, which is still in the bottom 3rd). After that game against the Devils, we were at something like 4%. The point is that the powerplay has improved from bad to mediocre. No doubt it's still a concern. But it is improving, even if it doesn't feel like it.

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03-04-2013, 04:45 PM
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Here's something weird. Over their last 11 games, after that horrible 0-for-5 performance against the Devils, the Rangers are converting at 19.4%, which would be 11th in the league.

Obviously, that number gets pushed up by a bunch because of the 2 we scored last night (it drops to 15.6% if you go to 10 games leading into last night, which is still in the bottom 3rd). After that game against the Devils, we were at something like 4%. The point is that the powerplay has improved from bad to mediocre. No doubt it's still a concern. But it is improving, even if it doesn't feel like it.
Public opinion once again proves to be a lagging indicator.

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03-04-2013, 05:59 PM
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Here's something weird. Over their last 11 games, after that horrible 0-for-5 performance against the Devils, the Rangers are converting at 19.4%, which would be 11th in the league.

Obviously, that number gets pushed up by a bunch because of the 2 we scored last night (it drops to 15.6% if you go to 10 games leading into last night, which is still in the bottom 3rd). After that game against the Devils, we were at something like 4%. The point is that the powerplay has improved from bad to mediocre. No doubt it's still a concern. But it is improving, even if it doesn't feel like it.
OR

We're on an inevitable hot streak (which is still in the bottom 3rd as you say) and will regress soon to somewhere between 19.4% and 4%. I don't know how a professional NHL team could sustain a 4% rate of course, but the "improvements" we've made in terms of play, not production, are so marginal that I have severe doubts we'll be able to get our PP into the top half.

Statistics from that "streak"

Scored against PK rank: 10th, 10th, 27th, 2nd (conceded SHG), 16th, 2x18th (conceded SHG)

Failed against PK rank: 16th, 1st, 13th, 13th, 30th

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03-04-2013, 07:06 PM
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To me it's hard to argue that Stepan should be on the ice and not Richards on the PP, and don't argue that since Step scored last night on the PP he should be out there (that play was all Nash). A struggling Richards is still better on the PP than Stepan, especially with Nash out there because Richie can set Nash up. Step can't do that
Debatable, of course but your point remains that Richards has a resume and makes good passes. It's something experiment with. Maybe rotate them. Stepan does well at the side of the net though when shooting.

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03-04-2013, 07:28 PM
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Here's something weird. Over their last 11 games, after that horrible 0-for-5 performance against the Devils, the Rangers are converting at 19.4%, which would be 11th in the league.

Obviously, that number gets pushed up by a bunch because of the 2 we scored last night (it drops to 15.6% if you go to 10 games leading into last night, which is still in the bottom 3rd). After that game against the Devils, we were at something like 4%. The point is that the powerplay has improved from bad to mediocre. No doubt it's still a concern. But it is improving, even if it doesn't feel like it.
Yep and the PK has improved from like 19th to 7th. It's been phenomenal since the trade the trade board and Mike Milbury couldn't understand (though it was good without Powe too for a few games).

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03-11-2013, 06:23 PM
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A comparative look at special teams over the past three seasons.

Powerplay
 2010-112011-122012-13
5-on-4   
PP Time477:21437:53130:10
Goals Scored443810
Time Per Goal10:5011:3113:01
Shooting %11.4%11.9%10.5%
SHG Against542
5-on-3   
PP Time12:4113:157:46
Goals Scored542
Time Per Goal2:323:193:53
Shooting %20.0%25.0%25.0%
SHG Against000

Penalty Kill
 2010-112011-122012-13
4-on-5   
PK Time419:42423:36127:54
Goals Allowed373414
Time Per Goal11:2012:289:14
Save %0.8920.8970.863
SHG For1181
3-on-5   
PK Time7:186:185:54
Goals Allowed310
Time Per Goal2:266:18N/A
Save %0.7000.8891.000
SHG For000

Getting worse in almost every category. Killing 5:54 of 3-on-5 without a goal against is impressive, though.

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