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03-04-2013, 12:51 PM
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What would be the price tag for Alex Tanguay? Maybe it is just me but as a pens fan I am a little more interested in him than Iggy.
He is a low end first line player on a pretty good deal, maybe prospect + 1st.

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03-04-2013, 12:53 PM
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He is a low end first line player on a pretty good deal, maybe prospect + 1st.
There's no way that Pittsburgh pays a 1st + prospect for Tanguay.

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I really am against the Pens emptying the cupboard for what will amount to most likely a few week rental. I am not against the use of their assets to solve their search for a wing for Crosby. But a long term solution, not a rental. Crosby is a Pens for life, I do not want them to be looking again next year with nothing to trade for one then.
If Shero thinks he has a chance of re-signing Iginla I'd have few issues with letting go of Maatta & a 1st. If not I'd prefer he looked elsewhere for a less expensive rental or similarly priced but more long-term solution.

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03-04-2013, 12:55 PM
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There's no way that Pittsburgh pays a 1st + prospect for Tanguay.
Thats fine we are going to just give him away, he signed a good deal to stay in Calgary we aren't looking to move him.

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03-04-2013, 01:26 PM
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There is no first if Jerome doesn't stay. Maatta is a first. Jeromes value goes down every year. Maybe a year or two back you may have got it, but Shero isn't giving it to you now.

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03-04-2013, 01:39 PM
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There is no first if Jerome doesn't stay. Maatta is a first. Jeromes value goes down every year. Maybe a year or two back you may have got it, but Shero isn't giving it to you now.
Pitts moved their 1st + their first the year before (Esposito) + Armstrong (equal to Kennedy) + Christensen who looked to be breaking out into a solid 3rd line player for Hossa + Dupuis (throw in)

There was no condition on the pick and that season Hossa wasn't doing any better than Iginla is this year.

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03-04-2013, 02:00 PM
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Pitts moved their 1st + their first the year before (Esposito) + Armstrong (equal to Kennedy) + Christensen who looked to be breaking out into a solid 3rd line player for Hossa + Dupuis (throw in)

There was no condition on the pick and that season Hossa wasn't doing any better than Iginla is this year.
Comparing the Hossa return (with his age and production at the time) with what you think Iggy will fetch (with his age and production) is down right laughable.

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03-04-2013, 02:11 PM
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Pitts moved their 1st + their first the year before (Esposito) + Armstrong (equal to Kennedy) + Christensen who looked to be breaking out into a solid 3rd line player for Hossa + Dupuis (throw in)

There was no condition on the pick and that season Hossa wasn't doing any better than Iginla is this year.
Christensen didn't look to be breaking out into anything. The only reason he was even playing instead of in the press box is because he was pretty much a lock in shootouts and it seemed like the Pens played a ton of OT games that season.

I agree Calgary will get a non-conditional first, though.

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in what way is Derrick Pouliot a spare part? enlighten me.
I should have been more specific. Pouliot isn't a spare part but the rest of the pieces are. Meanwhile OP is asking for Iginla and Glencross

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Comparing the Hossa return (with his age and production at the time) with what you think Iggy will fetch (with his age and production) is down right laughable.
What I was saying is that Hossa wasn't having his greatest season and at the deadline returned far more than just the year previous prospect and there was no guarantee on Hossa resigning. Top line rentals cost alot we have seen it before, Hossa was arguable worth more so leave out Christensen and Armstrong comparable and that is probably the price you are looking at.

Hell look at Pronger got 2 1sts and Lupul and a first round prospect from the year before in Sbisa. He was the same age as Iginla.

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03-04-2013, 02:25 PM
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Penguins have been rumored many times recently that they will make a pitch for iginla to play with Crosby, it's not known if feaster will try to sign him or to put him on the market and try to rebuild. Penguins have also been in the market for another defenseman and third line player so what do you think of this trade and if its fair value...

To Pitt:
Iginla
Glencross
Babchuk

To Calgary:
Derrick pouliot
Tyler Kennedy
Dustin Jeffery
1st round pick

If you disagree, then counter offer for what you think is fair if something needs added, etc.
Lets Break this down:

Iginla for 1st + Pouliot + Kennedy (Flames can get a better offer somewhere else, but this isn't awful).

Glenx for Jeffery (Awful, go away.)

Babcuhk for 0 (Hes probably worth a late pick.)

Terrible overall.

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He is a low end first line player on a pretty good deal, maybe prospect + 1st.
He isn't worth that.

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OP needs to STOP making proposals on the Pens behalf. Sorry Flames fans, this is bad. Just bad.

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What would be the price tag for Alex Tanguay? Maybe it is just me but as a pens fan I am a little more interested in him than Iggy.
1st + Lesser prospect (maybe a boom-bust center, nothing special).

Or, 3rd + Maatta/Despres/Pouliot.

Something in that range.

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Pitts moved their 1st + their first the year before (Esposito) + Armstrong (equal to Kennedy) + Christensen who looked to be breaking out into a solid 3rd line player for Hossa + Dupuis (throw in)

There was no condition on the pick and that season Hossa wasn't doing any better than Iginla is this year.
Christensen was a healthy scratch at the time of the trade and had been sparsely used all season - he was nothing more than a shootout specialist. The only thing he looked like was that he was going to be out of a job soon...he was a common whipping boy.

Calgary almost certainly will get a 1st in any deal for Iginla, just setting things clear that Christensen was hardly a valuable asset.

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He isn't worth that.
That is debatable last year Kostisyn returned 2nd + conditional 5th and he only had 24 points in 52 games and he was a rental, Tanguay is clearly better and has been for several years and signed to a good contract. Penner got 1st + 3rd + good prospect and was barely playing a .6 ppg pace that year. Hard to not imagine Tanguay getting a 1st +.

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What I was saying is that Hossa wasn't having his greatest season and at the deadline returned far more than just the year previous prospect and there was no guarantee on Hossa resigning. Top line rentals cost alot we have seen it before, Hossa was arguable worth more so leave out Christensen and Armstrong comparable and that is probably the price you are looking at.

Hell look at Pronger got 2 1sts and Lupul and a first round prospect from the year before in Sbisa. He was the same age as Iginla.


When he was traded his stat line was 26G 30A in 60 games. 56 points in 60 games on a terrible Thrasher team.

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1st + Lesser prospect (maybe a boom-bust center, nothing special).

Or, 3rd + Maatta/Despres/Pouliot.

Something in that range.
I'd be speechless if either of those two were moved for Tanguay, and I'd be pretty shocked if Maatta was as well.

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I'd be speechless if either of those two were moved for Tanguay, and I'd be pretty shocked if Maatta was as well.
He is easily worth a 1st, so unless you value those prospects as higher than a first I don't see why it's shocking. I could understand Despres because he is a roster player but the other two are pretty run of the mill 1st rounders in my opinion (yes I know Pouliot was a top 10 pick).

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When he was traded his stat line was 26G 30A in 60 games. 56 points in 60 games on a terrible Thrasher team.
Yes I didn't say it was terrible, but he was playing with Kovy a fair amount. He was clearly a rental and while I agree he was worth more than Iginla, Iginla has proven to be a top line talent and all the examples of top line talent being moved always return 1st + good prospect +. I was merely using Hossa as an example that a Pitts fan would get.

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That is debatable last year Kostisyn returned 2nd + conditional 5th and he only had 24 points in 52 games and he was a rental, Tanguay is clearly better and has been for several years and signed to a good contract. Penner got 1st + 3rd + good prospect and was barely playing a .6 ppg pace that year. Hard to not imagine Tanguay getting a 1st +.
Different season equals different market. I don't give two poops what Gaustad or Kostiisyn or Penner fetched last year. For a guy that has hit 50 points only two of his last five years, that is too much. Let someone else pay that ridiculous price for Tanguay.

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What I was saying is that Hossa wasn't having his greatest season and at the deadline returned far more than just the year previous prospect and there was no guarantee on Hossa resigning. Top line rentals cost alot we have seen it before, Hossa was arguable worth more so leave out Christensen and Armstrong comparable and that is probably the price you are looking at.

Hell look at Pronger got 2 1sts and Lupul and a first round prospect from the year before in Sbisa. He was the same age as Iginla.
Iggy is in the very twilight of his career and hossa was still in his prime and coming off 100 & 90+ point seasons.

Comparing the two is beyond retarded then you go an compare a forwards return to that of a HHoF d-man. Ugh.... moving along.

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Different season equals different market. I don't give two poops what Gaustad or Kostiisyn or Penner fetched last year. For a guy that has hit 50 points only two of his last five years, that is too much. Let someone else pay that ridiculous price for Tanguay.
Yea and Corsby was only a 37 point player last year he couldn't have been worth that much.

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Iggy is in the very twilight of his career and hossa was still in his prime and coming off 100 & 90+ point seasons.

Comparing the two is beyond retarded then you go an compare a forwards return to that of a HHoF d-man. Ugh.... moving along.
I never said that Iginla = Pronger, but if Pronger at the same age is worth 2 1st + Lupul more than Iginla then you have to get your head checked.

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Not sure why Babchuk was wanted by the OP. He does have size to him, but he is not a physical presence. He does use his body and positioning, and is extremely underrated for having a great first pass, but he is what he is - a 6-7th d-man, power-play specialist. One rocket of a shot, and is really good at keeping the puck in the offensive zone on the PP.

I would assume he would be available for a low round pick to a team that needs help on the PP.

As for Glencross... Apparently he took 1 million off his contract to get a NTC to stay in Calgary. Has a ranch here, and works the Calgary Stampede in the off-season. I would assume he may waive to go to Edmonton if he waives at all.

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