While this echoes most of what's been said here already.. Flip gets re-signed, Cleary is told thanks for your time.
In this injury riddled season, we've gotten to see that we've got prospects ready to fill roles on the bottom 6. I'd say some still have room for growth as well. That SHOULD seal Cleary's fate.
Filppula has the skill that we need in a top 6 player. If he decides to test the market, I'd bet someone overpays like Buffalo did w Leino. Hope we lock him up, even at a slight overpayment. Slight overpayment early is better than trying to keep up w a bidding war, that we know Kenny can't or won't do. I'm not going to worry about what Datsyuk may or may not do later on.
Cleary had his moments with the organization, and I'm very glad we had him for the time that we did. But, his time has passed. That is more than apparent now. However, based off his play time he's been receiving this season, I'm worried Ken and Mike see it differently.
As for Fil, 4.5 is a little steep considering his play this season, I hope we can take him down to even 4.0 per, because he is worth keeping, at least short term.
Yeah, no. You don't give garbage a two year five million dollar deal then ask Flip to take a discount.
Giving broken down, aging roleplayers that kind of contract is why we're having the issues we've been having. Liked his game when he was healthy, but it's time to move on. If ouir cupboards were barren, I might think a bit different, but they're not.
I don't even get how they could entertain the thought of re-signing Cleary when they need too make room for Nyquist and Tatar next year (could be sent down when Helm, Filppula and Samuelsson come back). Also, isn't Andersson out of options next year? Plus, talking about a multi year deal when you also have Sheahan/Ferraro for the year after is absolutely stupid.
With all of the prospects we got plus potential FA signings we should riot if Cleary is re-signed even if it's for the league minimum.
The guy was a solid player for a few years for us but he is just about done and the Wings should have no use for him. I'm sure he could get a job still with someone like Winnipeg, Florida or NYI.
The Wings should also entertain amnestying Bert and/or Sammy, even though they only have one year left after this one. But who else are you gonna save that for? Franzen? It has to be used on someone who was on the roster when the lockout ended.
Last edited by Big Poppa Puck: 03-04-2013 at 07:39 PM.
If ken holland feels he needs to be loyal to cleary. I have no issue with them resigning him. As long as it is with a pay decrease. And he is used in the proper role. Which in my eyes would be as a 13th or 14th forward. And only plays in the event of an injury and he goes absolutely no where near the top six. Also as long as he isn't taking a roster spot from a younger more effective player.
Flip, I don't know. The datsyuk possibly leaving thing does nothing for me in this argument. So far this season he has done absolutely nothing to prove to me why he deserves a raise over his current pay. Especially when a guy like nyquist or Tatar could step in and be just as if not more effective at a much lower cap hit. Allowing the wings to use that money elsewhere. If it were me. I hope he plays a bit better from now till the deadline. Try and sign him for 4 mil or under. If he doesn't budge off the 4.5. Trade him. That's me.
I've liked Cleary and his drive but enough is enough the guy can't even really do much anymore. If they resign him I will seriously consider following another team lol. I hate seeing one of my favorite players of all time stuck with him and abby. Absolutely no excuses for that.
I don't even get how they could entertain the thought of re-signing Cleary when they need too make room for Nyquist and Tatar next year
Because they're not particularly interested in making room for them. Babcock wants old and defensive. Holland wants old and offensive. At no point do their opinions intersect at young and offensive.
Flip, I don't know. The datsyuk possibly leaving thing does nothing for me in this argument. So far this season he has done absolutely nothing to prove to me why he deserves a raise over his current pay. Especially when a guy like nyquist or Tatar could step in and be just as if not more effective at a much lower cap hit.
They could replace him offensively, but not defensively. Unfortunately, team defense is the concern that's holding Tatar and Nyquist down. I think it will continue to.