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03-03-2013, 08:30 PM
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What's the story with MacIntyre? Never heard of him before and he's making everybody say "jussi who-nas?"

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Love that they put Colborne and Ashton together. Perhaps they are thinking that those two developing chemistry is good for long term promotion.

Perhaps after promotion next year we see something like...

Kulemin-Colborne-Ashton as a third line?

That would actually be quite competent defensively if they continue to progress. Both of those two need to grow physically first.

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Grabovski-Frattin
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Komarov-McClement-Orr

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If Holzer can clear make the move, bring him up.
Holzer will most likely be moved down to make room for Frattin. Then another move(s) is/are needed to clear roster space for both Gardiner and eventually Lupul.

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03-04-2013, 05:55 AM
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Love that they put Colborne and Ashton together. Perhaps they are thinking that those two developing chemistry is good for long term promotion.

Perhaps after promotion next year we see something like...

Kulemin-Colborne-Ashton as a third line?

That would actually be quite competent defensively if they continue to progress. Both of those two need to grow physically first.

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Grabovski-Frattin
Kulemin-Colborne-Ashton
Komarov-McClement-Orr
My question is why did it take so long, they had a great chemistry going on last half of the season and during the playoffs.

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Love that they put Colborne and Ashton together. Perhaps they are thinking that those two developing chemistry is good for long term promotion.

Perhaps after promotion next year we see something like...

Kulemin-Colborne-Ashton as a third line?

That would actually be quite competent defensively if they continue to progress. Both of those two need to grow physically first.

JVR-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-Grabovski-Frattin
Kulemin-Colborne-Ashton
Komarov-McClement-Orr
Like Colborne as a future #3C, but I am not sure why more people are not starting to recognize this, Grabo with his lack of distribution skills will stunt any offense that Frattin and Lupul may have on a #2 line.

Colborne and Ashton have always been a 3rd line possibility to me. Not sure Kulemin will be in the group, I am thinking more of a Ryane Clowe type winger with them, more sandpaper that makes us a more difficult team to play against.

Regardless, I think there may be some moves Nonis does, that may include Kessel, there is no reason to think this year's roster will look the same next year.

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My question is why did it take so long, they had a great chemistry going on last half of the season and during the playoffs.
poor coaching...did I just go there?

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03-04-2013, 09:19 AM
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He isn't perfect even though he has once had a team in the playoffs.

Even Cup winning coaches make mistakes, or at least that would be my guess.

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If Holzer can clear make the move, bring him up.
Why not move out a player that isn't playing?

Leafs have 2 experienced defenders sitting in the press box, are we saying Nonis can't make a trade? Is he in freeze mode? Maybe Nonis has a period where he doesn't trade players?

I wouldn't risk losing a player on waivers for no reason.

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Why not move out a player that isn't playing?

Leafs have 2 experienced defenders sitting in the press box, are we saying Nonis can't make a trade? Is he in freeze mode? Maybe Nonis has a period where he doesn't trade players?

I wouldn't risk losing a player on waivers for no reason.
I think Holzer can be sent down without waivers.

Fraser is subject to waivers and there will be like 10-15 teams putting a claim for him if we were stupid enough to waive him.

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I think Holzer can be sent down without waivers.

Fraser is subject to waivers and there will be like 10-15 teams putting a claim for him if we were stupid enough to waive him.
And Liles and Komisarek are sitting in the press box and aren't a part of the future. Is Liles contract that bad? Horrible preponderance of taking money from Canadians and giving to Americans in the last management group.

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Stopping 55-of-57 shots in two wins, Drew MacIntyre named AHL player of the week. #Marlies

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What happened to Owuya? He's not performing as well?

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What happened to Owuya? He's not performing as well?
Can't really remember, ive been a bit absent from the marlies area.

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Can't really remember, ive been a bit absent from the marlies area.
He played the last 10 minutes on Saturday after Rynnas was pulled.

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What's the story with MacIntyre? Never heard of him before and he's making everybody say "jussi who-nas?"
I played a few years against him when I was a kid, his 1st cousin was our goaltender. Nice to to see him in the blue and white.

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What's up with Brad Ross? One point in 19 games was incredibly weak for a mid second round pick. Even his PIMs were on the disappointing side. I expected a lot more shenanigans from a guy who had 160-200 penalty minutes in consecutive seasons in junior.

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What's up with Brad Ross? One point in 19 games was incredibly weak for a mid second round pick. Even his PIMs were on the disappointing side. I expected a lot more shenanigans from a guy who had 160-200 penalty minutes in consecutive seasons in junior.
He was getting very much of a limited role when the lockout was in effect and when he did get the chance I believe he got injured. I'm pretty sure he's in the ECHL to get things down. He's a good guy and a hard worker, just needs time.

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He isn't perfect even though he has once had a team in the playoffs.

Even Cup winning coaches make mistakes, or at least that would be my guess.
Indeed.

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What's up with Brad Ross? One point in 19 games was incredibly weak for a mid second round pick. Even his PIMs were on the disappointing side. I expected a lot more shenanigans from a guy who had 160-200 penalty minutes in consecutive seasons in junior.
I have to be one of the only people who didn't see much real offense in him. Everytime we had a prospect or development camp I thought he looked lost out there. And when you look lost out there offensively around players like Andrew Crescenzi (undrafted), Josh Nicholls (Unsigned), and Sam Carrick (5th round pick)...all the same age mind you, that has to say something.

Also, the talent he played with in Portland was insane. When he didn't make a major jump in his post draft year I thought that was a minor sign as well.

Honestly, he has so much more time to develop...but I think we all just wanted him to be our Tucker or Ott so badly we overlooked some things. Like I said, I couldn't get over how skill-less he looked in our development camps. Only explanation for him putting up those points were the players he played with in Portland or something.

Because if you talked to Portland fans he was never, ever really hyped up.

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I think Brad Ross definitely has a lot more to show.

He was a bit unlucky due to the NHL lockout. Couldn't get much ice time, if any, and was usually stuck playing 4th line minutes with no PK and no PP because there was so many people in front of him.

When the NHL lockout ended, he broke his wrist/hand. I mean, talk about bad luck. He was sent down to the ECHL for a conditioning stint and is now back with the Marlies. Let's see how he bounces back.

With that said, it definitely has been a disappointing rookie season for him. Next year he'll be counted on a lot more, perhaps even this year in the stretch. We'll see how he bounces back.

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Every game I watch, Joe Colbourne is involved in absolutely atrocious and thoughtless turnovers in his own zone.

I don't know how people are pretending he is NHL ready.

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Every game I watch, Joe Colbourne is involved in absolutely atrocious and thoughtless turnovers in his own zone.

I don't know how people are pretending he is NHL ready.
That sounds to me like he would fit right in with the big team...

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Every game I watch, Joe Colbourne is involved in absolutely atrocious and thoughtless turnovers in his own zone.

I don't know how people are pretending he is NHL ready.
Well for one, he hasn't been atrocious, especially not since December.

Also, Eakins has praised him a lot lately and has said that he's pretty much NHL ready.

So unless Eakins is not being truthful in his assessment of Colborne, I think he's right that Colborne should be in the NHL soon. I don't think the fans are hyping him for no reason.

Even Nonis said the other day that they want to give a shot to Colborne before the end of the year to see if he can take his game to the next level. He's played well, especially in the last couple weeks.

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Well for one, he hasn't been atrocious, especially not since December.

Also, Eakins has praised him a lot lately and has said that he's pretty much NHL ready.

So unless Eakins is not being truthful in his assessment of Colborne, I think he's right that Colborne should be in the NHL soon. I don't think the fans are hyping him for no reason.

Even Nonis said the other day that they want to give a shot to Colborne before the end of the year to see if he can take his game to the next level. He's played well, especially in the last couple weeks.
Look for yourself: At 35 seconds (just awful defensive coverage). Then at 4:05. Then at 5:12

http://video.mapleleafs.nhl.com/vide...ed-share-video

There's plenty more where that came from. The funny thing is people - even today - complain incessantly about Kadri's turnovers and he wasn't even a quarter as bad as Colborne is.

Clearly someone in management likes him, but I bet you Carlyle takes one good look at him and sends him packing. There's a reason Carlyle didn't invite him to camp.

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Clearly someone in management likes him, but I bet you Carlyle takes one good look at him and sends him packing. There's a reason Carlyle didn't invite him to camp.
There are plenty of reasons why the last camp was unlike normal camps.

Colborne only got healthy this year, so he didn't have a body of work to review.

Frattin didn't even make the team.

Can't apply normal standards to this deviated season.

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There are plenty of reasons why the last camp was unlike normal camps.

Colborne only got healthy this year, so he didn't have a body of work to review.

Frattin didn't even make the team.

Can't apply normal standards to this deviated season.
Carlyle had the entire lockout to analyse the Marlies and decide who to call up to camp, given the limited number of camp spots.

He didn't like what he saw from Colborne during the season so he didn't invite him.

You can blame that on injury but I haven't seen a huge improvement from him despite the points. Most of his points are coming on the PP because he's getting more time on it now that Kadri, Frattin and others are gone.

He has nice hands and can produce given time and space but his compete level is low. He doesn't know how to give himself space 5-on-5 (like by using his body or reach) and his defensive acumen is, at best, amateur.

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