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03-05-2013, 10:54 AM
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03-05-2013, 10:56 AM
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Scoring goals like crazy is a bit of a stretch. We beat up Tampa and the Islanders, two teams with below average defense and shoddy goaltending, and squeaked out a SO win in Boston while giving up 40 shots on goal.

I think if the Rangers had a replacement for Boyle lined up, or if he was garnering any interest in trade, something would have been done by now.
They already have a bunch of replacements in Hartford. The addition of Powe makes him truly expendable. Powe, Halpern, Cally, Stepan are all adequate on the PK.

Trade him for defensive depth. I suggested Boyle for Yannick Weber on the trade board. Weber has a shot and can play the PP. Get it done Slats. Steal another one of their blue chip prospects while you're at it

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Clearly the return of Boyle was to blame for our losing streak and not the fact that our best forward was injured and we were missing 2 of our top 4 defensemen at points. This board cracks me up.
I agree 100%. Some of you guys need to get off of Brian Boyle, he's a good 4th line center and he is what he is. We should utilize Halpern on the 3rd line, he's looked good this year. If we have problems, BB is a minor one we should address. Get off the guy

BB had some huge goals in big games for the team last year, we likely may have been eliminated by Ottawa if it wasn't for his offense in that series. Don't forget that, and don't denounce the guy after 20 games this year. It's a very small sample size

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03-05-2013, 11:04 AM
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I agree 100%. Some of you guys need to get off of Brian Boyle, he's a good 4th line center and he is what he is. We should utilize Halpern on the 3rd line, he's looked good this year. If we have problems, BB is a minor one we should address. Get off the guy

BB had some huge goals in big games for the team last year, we likely may have been eliminated by Ottawa if it wasn't for his offense in that series. Don't forget that, and don't denounce the guy after 20 games this year. It's a very small sample size
But you can't deny the fact he's been slotted in the 3rd line, even 2nd line with ****ing Gaborik. Marion ****ing Gaborik!!!!!!!! Gabby could go coast to coast twice before Boyle could catch up with him. I don't hate the guy, but he is the teacher's pet so to speak.

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But you can't deny the fact he's been slotted in the 3rd line, even 2nd line with ****ing Gaborik. Marion ****ing Gaborik!!!!!!!! Gabby could go coast to coast twice before Boyle could catch up with him. I don't hate the guy, but he is the teacher's pet so to speak.
Torts is making a mistake using him on the 3rd line, with the way he's played this year. Boyle is a 4th line center and good on the PK, that's about it

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But you can't deny the fact he's been slotted in the 3rd line, even 2nd line with ****ing Gaborik. Marion ****ing Gaborik!!!!!!!! Gabby could go coast to coast twice before Boyle could catch up with him. I don't hate the guy, but he is the teacher's pet so to speak.
He's never been slotted on the 2nd line unless someone was benched, or if Gaborik had played himself onto the 3rd line. He's averaged 13 minutes a night this year, and only 15 last year. He's never been regularly relied upon to play 2nd line minutes. That's pure conjecture.

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If we are going to talk about a full season, Boyle was anything but good last year up until the last few weeks.

Three goals in 47 games....For a Center who played almost 15 mins a game. While I'm all for the team concept and being a link in the chain, the Rangers will survive and contend with or without Brian Boyle.

He's truly amazing.

He's easily the most visible invisible player this fanbase has seen in a long, long time.

There's always one bottom liner a few will always defend to the end. I dont get it.

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They already have a bunch of replacements in Hartford. The addition of Powe makes him truly expendable. Powe, Halpern, Cally, Stepan are all adequate on the PK.

Trade him for defensive depth. I suggested Boyle for Yannick Weber on the trade board. Weber has a shot and can play the PP. Get it done Slats. Steal another one of their blue chip prospects while you're at it
Name one replacement we have in Hartford.

You're okay with "I've never scored more than 17 points" Darrol Powe as the 3rd line center, but Boyle isn't good enough?

Weber for Boyle is terrible. The guy has played one game all season, can't play defense, and is constantly overmatched by larger forwards.

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Halpern 3L Center, Powe 4th line Center. Halpern has shown some good wheels and puck pursuit and has actually scored over the course of his career.

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If we are going to talk about a full season, Boyle was anything but good last year up until the last few weeks.

Three goals in 47 games....For a Center who played almost 15 mins a game. While I'm all for the team concept and being a link in the chain, the Rangers will survive and contend with or without Brian Boyle.

He's truly amazing.

He's easily the most visible invisible player this fanbase has seen in a long, long time.

There's always one bottom liner a few will always defend to the end. I dont get it.
I think what normally occurs is there is a cult-like group here who just reinforce eachother over and over and over. Therefore the praise and criticism of almost everyone on this team normally goes far overboard. Some people attempt to balance that out, hence what you see "defending" is more trying to equalize an overly negative sentiment.

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This is why we should've signed Konopka in the off season

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Halpern 3L Center, Powe 4th line Center. Halpern has shown some good wheels and puck pursuit and has actually scored over the course of his career.
How is that relevant now? You have to go back three seasons for a year he outscored Boyle, and 7 seasons for the last time he cracked 30 points.

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Halpern 3L Center, Powe 4th line Center. Halpern has shown some good wheels and puck pursuit and has actually scored over the course of his career.
That will be a suitable stopgap to the Boyle haters for all of about 1 game - then they can focus on how Halpern isnt getting the job done.

The truth is Boyle is not playing well at all, however there is no suitable replacements anywhere to be found right now.

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This is why we should've signed Konopka in the off season
He is another 4th line center.....

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There's always one bottom liner a few will always defend to the end. I dont get it.
Has me scratching my head everyday...

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How is that relevant now? You have to go back three seasons for a year he outscored Boyle, and 7 seasons for the last time he cracked 30 points.
Well if you want to talk about now, Boyle and Halpern both have the same amount of points (1) and Boyle averages nearly 4 more minutes per game than Halpern and plays on a line with better players.

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He is another 4th line center.....
Who has 1 more point in his 266 game NHL career than Brian Boyle had last season.

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I think what normally occurs is there is a cult-like group here who just reinforce eachother over and over and over.
I still haven't forgiven you for switching cults...


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Boyle does piss me off lately, but to have such a lengthy thread on him is ridiculous.

It's like getting in a car accident, and having the EMT's treat the zit on your face first.

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Boyle does piss me off lately, but to have such a lengthy thread on him is ridiculous.

It's like getting in a car accident, and having the EMT's treat the zit on your face first.

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Boyle does piss me off lately, but to have such a lengthy thread on him is ridiculous.

It's like getting in a car accident, and having the EMT's treat the zit on your face first.
This is where I am at too. he needs to play MUCH better than he has. I think as a 4th line center he would be fine. Decreased ES time is needed.

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I haven't totally switched but I thought he would be a decent 3rd line center, 25-30 points. He has under-achieved like crazy.

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He is another 4th line center.....
Which is exactly what I think Boyle is, but Konopka is grittier, better on draws, and plays a more consistent game. He also doesn't fall over every time the wind blows. Boyle is the biggest guy on the ice most nights and he's constantly on his ass.

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This is where I am at too. he needs to play MUCH better than he has. I think as a 4th line center he would be fine. Decreased ES time is needed.
I don't think there are many who would disagree with this. His most fierce supporters think he's played very poorly but there's no reasonable alternatives.

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Which is exactly what I think Boyle is, but Konopka is grittier, better on draws, and plays a more consistent game. He also doesn't fall over every time the wind blows. Boyle is the biggest guy on the ice most nights and he's constantly on his ass.
Everytime Boyle falls down the Rangers lose a point in the standings.

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Which is exactly what I think Boyle is, but Konopka is grittier, better on draws, and plays a more consistent game. He also doesn't fall over every time the wind blows. Boyle is the biggest guy on the ice most nights and he's constantly on his ass.
If you think Boyle is bad offensively you should watch Konopka on a regular basis.

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If you think Boyle is bad offensively you should watch Konopka on a regular basis.
I have. And I didn't say he was a better offensive player. Just a better overall asset on the 4th line than Boyle is.

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