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Official Gameday Thread: New York Islanders vs. Philadelphia Flyers (1:00 PM)

New York Islanders vs. Philadelphia Flyers

Next Stop: Philadelphia Flyers (1:00 PM)
Fox Sports New York, 1050 AM ESPN Radio
Flyers Lead Series (2-0-0-0)


http://newyorkislanders.com/gameday/pregame.html

(Dec. 20) The streak is over, but the road trip continues, so the Islanders travel to Philadelphia to take on the Flyers in a weekend matinee. The Flyers enter the game on a five-game winless streak, while the Isles try to pick up their third win on the road this season.

The Isles saw a four-game regulation undefeated streak go by the boards Thursday in the trip to the City, so they'll try to break a few bad-luck streaks Saturday. The road has not been kind to the Isles this season, as they've won just twice away from the Coliseum, with the last win back on November 19th in Florida. It won't be easy, considering the Flyers' success at home this season.

The Isles will also need to overcome their recent trouble with Philadelphia to get a win. The Flyers have won the last three meetings, holding the Isles to one goal in each game. The last time the Isles beat the Flyers was January 24th, when they beat Philly, 3-1, on the road. Garth Snow was in net, and all three goal scorers are still in uniform (Michael Peca, Roman Hamrlik and Mark Parrish), so perhaps they recapture the experience.

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The Insider
New York Islanders @ Philadelphia Flyers
1:00 PM, December 20, 2003 @ Wachovia Center


http://newyorkislanders.com/gameday/insider.html

(Dec. 20) The Book on the Flyers
The rich got richer this past week, acquiring holdout center Mike Comrie from Edmonton, without losing a player from their active roster, before shipping depth forward Eric Chouinard off to Minnesota for a draft pick. Comrie has yet to settle on a contract with the Flyers, so it's unlikely he'll make much of an impact on the team anytime soon. He's not touched NHL ice since last Spring.

But even without their newest star, they're still loaded. Despite their surplus of talented forwards and skilled defenders, they've struggled lately, and are winless in their last five games. The team is led on offense by Jeremy Roenick, who has 17 assists and 29 points, while tied with linemate Mark Recchi for a team-high 12 goals. On defense, rookie Joni Pitkanen leads the team in points, and Kim Johnsson sees the most ice time.

Between the Pipes
Many questioned why Philadelphia picked up another forward in Comrie, when goaltending has been their traditional weakness. But Jeff Hackett had made his bosses look smart, playing solid hockey...until lately. In his past five outings, he's gone 0-3-2 with a 2.80 goals-against average and a .880 save percentage. Back-up Robert Esche is day-to-day with a groin injury, missing the past six games, while Antero Niittymaki got the call-up to warm the bench.

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The Scoop on the Philadelphia Flyers


http://newyorkislanders.com/gameday/scoop.html

(Dec. 20) From the outside, the Philadelphia Flyers still look like one of the top teams in the NHL. However, if you look past their 45 points in the standings, you'll see they have not played like one of the upper echelon teams as of late. Philly is currently winless in their last five games and also mired a three-game losing streak. Ironically, after not losing a home in their first 12 games at the Wachovia Center, the Flyers have lost three-straight at home (two in overtime). After a blazing start to the 2003-04 season, Philadelphia has quickly fallen back down to Earth.

Where They Stand:
Even with their recent spinout in the last week and a half, the Flyers still own one of the league's best records. They have collected 17 wins in the first two months of the season along with a league-low four regulation losses. Their record on the season is 17-4-8-3 and they're still an outstanding 12-1-2-2 on home ice. However, their last win came 10 days ago, a close 3-2 victory over the Montreal Canadiens.


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Comrie signed and he might play.

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Snow gets up for these games against his ex-team,so I expect a good effort from him.

one of the beatwriters reported the isles were considering demoting Weinhandl+Papineau to get them some increased icetime.

Papineau's out of options,can't be demoted without risking another team taking him off waivers,so i don't see him being sent down.Weinhandl's being wasted on the 4th line,but he also doesn't belong in Bridgeport.I'd like to see Weinhandl get 20-30 games on Yashin's wing.

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Snow gets up for these games against his ex-team,so I expect a good effort from him.

one of the beatwriters reported the isles were considering demoting Weinhandl+Papineau to get them some increased icetime.

Papineau's out of options,can't be demoted without risking another team taking him off waivers,so i don't see him being sent down.Weinhandl's being wasted on the 4th line,but he also doesn't belong in Bridgeport.I'd like to see Weinhandl get 20-30 games on Yashin's wing.
I agree, we should see a good effort from Snowy tonight...

And I also agree about Weinhandl. He should not be playing on anything but the third line or above.

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Where does it say Snow gets the start?

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The Flyers have not yet obtained a visa for Mike Comrie so he will not be playing today for Philly

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Where does it say Snow gets the start?
Nevermind

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Line of the day....

Howie: "That's a bad change. The Flyers have about 17 men on the ice."

Also, figures that Fraser was the ref called Blake's phantom roughing call against the Rangers, most likely calls interference on Parrish for getting bearhugged and thrown to the ice by Brashear

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Line of the day....

Howie: "That's a bad change. The Flyers have about 17 men on the ice."

Also, figures that Fraser was the ref called Blake's phantom roughing call against the Rangers, most likely calls interference on Parrish for getting bearhugged and thrown to the ice by Brashear

that the refs hate us. we get no calls or breaks ever.

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that the refs hate us. we get no calls or breaks ever.
The Parrish call was bogus...Was their a sniper in the crowd on the Scatchard cross check?...Hamrlik's hook was happening all day for both teams and then was decided to be called when the Isles were down by two?...The Peca call was right but was it any different then Recchi going down so easy?

Overall a solid road game but a few breaks that went the Flyers way and very good player in Roenick making the difference.

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Snow let in 3 stoppable shots and that's the game. With NYI taking too many penalties and not converting on the PP, it comes down to goaltending.

Neither Snow nor DiPietro can sustain a high level of performance beyond 5 games....granted this was the Philly game, but Snow's lapses in the NYR game were a good indicator that his strecth was over. Sterling should have went with Ricky.

Michelleti made such a big deal about Philly's second goal with the bad change by Kvasha and how it was a 5-4. Not true, a Philly defenseman trailed the play and was at the redline when Kvasha's replacement was coming on. The play STARTED when Kvasha stood and watched Yashin try to make a play around the side of the net. Again, HE WAS TO CLOSE to him for Yashin to make his own play or for Yashin to pass it. So, Yash had to push it towards the net b/c no one was around.

and the cycle continues....

does this coaching staff watch the tapes??? jeez..

and Hamrlik...just trade his lazy non-one timing weak shootin butt already. he made a great defensive play early on but his offense is atrocious.

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Not too much to say, they played hard, did not do enough to get pressure on Esche, even with the opening goal and they took more hits than they gave and had more pressure on them.

Philadelphia was struggling too coming into this.

Snow made some saves, but has to stop Vandermeer. Stirling's combo's just do not seem to be showing much chemistry and the power play looks just lost.

Two road wins, two road goals on the powerplay for the season. Same players keep eating up minutes and contribute nothing on the scoresheet. Outside of DiPietro hitting Papineau during his interview, did he even play?

Peca keeps showing more and more jump, but they need so much more from so many players. Stirling getting on Kvasha was interesting.

Only thing they can do is go to Washington and keep working and see what happens.

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Peca keeps showing more and more jump, but they need so much more from so many players. Stirling getting on Kvasha was interesting.

Only thing they can do is go to Washington and keep working and see what happens.
Peca,Hammer both did play somewhat decent in this game ,Yashin made a nice goal but was tripled teamed every time he touched the puck afterwards.

I hope the Rick plays a good game tommorow..it seemed like Snow ran outta gas towards the end of this one.


in re: Stirling getting on Kvasha....ABOUT TIME
Hopefully Jagr doesnt play

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Peca,Hammer both did play somewhat decent in this game ,Yashin made a nice goal but was tripled teamed every time he touched the puck afterwards.

I hope the Rick plays a good game tommorow..it seemed like Snow ran outta gas towards the end of this one.


in re: Stirling getting on Kvasha....ABOUT TIME
Hopefully Jagr doesnt play
Snow played well enough to gain a tie in my opinion but not if we can only get 1 goal. It is time for Ricky to play but the Isles have to find a way to put the puck in the net on the road.

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