HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Toronto Maple Leafs
Notices

Komarov discussion thread.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
03-05-2013, 12:39 PM
  #201
Hero
Raptors 13/14
 
Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 18,859
vCash: 50
If he can go back to #87 I will definitely buy his jersey.

Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 12:40 PM
  #202
contour
Registered User
 
contour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,637
vCash: 500
No, but Kule packaged with something else can fetch us a nice return. Although K-rav hits and finishes his checks, i'm frustrated by his ability to never finish off a play and put the puck in the net.

contour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 12:47 PM
  #203
The Caveman
snowbozie
 
The Caveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montreal, PQ
Posts: 1,218
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by contour View Post
No, but Kule packaged with something else can fetch us a nice return. Although K-rav hits and finishes his checks, i'm frustrated by his ability to never finish off a play and put the puck in the net.
Kule is equally frustrating with respect to inability to finish. Leo doesn't belong on Kadri's line, though maybe part of their success is that he does open up space for Kads and MacA. With Frattin back, Leo is bumped. Might be a waste having him on the fourth line.

The Caveman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 12:50 PM
  #204
malkinfan
Registered User
 
malkinfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Canada
Country: Slovenia
Posts: 3,099
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to malkinfan
Kulie and grabo's days are numbered in TO, book it.

malkinfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 01:06 PM
  #205
smitty10
Registered User
 
smitty10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,101
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkinfan View Post
Kulie and grabo's days are numbered in TO, book it.
Maybe not Grabovski, but Kulemin's are. I have a feeling we'll see him moved and replaced on the line by Komarov.

smitty10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 01:10 PM
  #206
CellarDweller0
Registered User
 
CellarDweller0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mississauga
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,151
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkinfan View Post
Kulie and grabo's days are numbered in TO, book it.
Agreed. As much as I like Kuli its almost like he is a completely different player from two years ago. He was faster, could possess the puck for long periods of time, went to the net and could score. He still does some of those things but he doesn't to any of them as effectively as he used to.

CellarDweller0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 01:11 PM
  #207
Aplayaz2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,413
vCash: 500
Komo adds a nice depth to the team, that checking

love it, physical game!

Aplayaz2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 01:34 PM
  #208
Gillam_09
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Port Aux Basques, NL
Country: Canada
Posts: 164
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Gillam_09
Quote:
Originally Posted by malkinfan View Post
Kulie and grabo's days are numbered in TO, book it.
i really dont agree. Kulie is playin more then he ever has for the leafs esp on the pk. his offensive numbers arnt there but hes still solid d and carlyle is holding players accountable for that. playin in a shutdown role like him and grabo have will drop numbers. imo he stays, why not he has a decent contract and hes doing everything carylyle expects him to

Gillam_09 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 01:51 PM
  #209
mix1home
Registered User
 
mix1home's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Toronto,ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,527
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by atleastimnotahabsfan View Post
For those who looked for this video in GDT (deleted on ytube) please look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0C8YjGUXzI
(1:57-2:26)

mix1home is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 02:09 PM
  #210
Leafski
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 113
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillam_09 View Post
i really dont agree. Kulie is playin more then he ever has for the leafs esp on the pk. his offensive numbers arnt there but hes still solid d and carlyle is holding players accountable for that. playin in a shutdown role like him and grabo have will drop numbers. imo he stays, why not he has a decent contract and hes doing everything carylyle expects him to
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.

Leafski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 02:42 PM
  #211
The Caveman
snowbozie
 
The Caveman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Montreal, PQ
Posts: 1,218
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.
I get it as well. And I believe that we are in the playoff hunt in part due to Kule and Grabo. But if we are to finally adress the #1C, we have to give up pieces. Could a line with Bozak, Leo K and a third checker be as effective? That waits to be seen.

The Caveman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 03:25 PM
  #212
Rinzler
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mississauga
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,898
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.
Hats off to you sir, great post. I wish more Leaf fans see more depth than just Goals and Assists.

Rinzler is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 03:27 PM
  #213
Didact
Nonis lost his mind
 
Didact's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,339
vCash: 500
keep him on the 4th line please unless he develops some scoring touch.

Didact is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 04:49 PM
  #214
Leafski
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 113
vCash: 500
Here's a great article on Komarov:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417427

Leafski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 05:02 PM
  #215
puckluck19
Registered User?
 
puckluck19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Estevan, SK
Country: Canada
Posts: 518
vCash: 500
Great article, great read, the guy has lived an incredible life that's for sure. He's a heart and soul type that will never be known on the stat lines (except for hits, I suppose) but he's a guy that every team needs. Couldn't be happier that he's with us.

Leo The Lion Komarov

puckluck19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-05-2013, 06:29 PM
  #216
darty
Registered User
 
darty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,264
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.


I agree and can't stand this "trade Kulemin" talk going on.

He may not be producing offensively, but he's not a liability and is a very hard worker out there. The latter part alone makes him a hockey player I want on my team in this league. Maybe he figures it out again and scores some goals for us, maybe he doesn't and we have a very good bottom six winger, what have we got to lose by keeping him?

Edit: Sorry for the Kulemin talk in this thread, I'll also add in I like Komarov and like another poster said, just wish he didn't have stone hands otherwise he could be an even more effective player.

darty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 09:46 AM
  #217
QnebO
Registered User
 
QnebO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Country: Finland
Posts: 4,638
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hero View Post
If he can go back to #87 I will definitely buy his jersey.
This. Been waiting for it.. #87 belongs to him. Sindey who? Wouldn't buy that crappy mass production jersey ever.. #87 Komarov leafs would be cooler than anything.

QnebO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:20 AM
  #218
HockeyThoughts
Delivering The Truth
 
HockeyThoughts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,295
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.
What a post!

HockeyThoughts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:20 AM
  #219
CanadasTeam
HFBoards Sponsor
 
CanadasTeam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Tarrana
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,376
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Here's a great article on Komarov:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417427
International man of mystery

If HBO 24/7 winter classic gets done, he'll be the equivalent of Bryz in terms of character lol

love the guy

__________________
!! GO LEAFS GO !!
CanadasTeam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:38 AM
  #220
Ari91
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,450
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Wow!!!!!!!! Someone who actually gets it! Congratulations on being more observant and intelligent than 90% of the leafs fan base!

Kulemin leads forwards (entire league) in Offensive Quality of Competition (Corsi), yet still manages to play at a 42 point pace (over 82 games). He affects games much more than most of you seem to percieve and because of his offensive numbers, he seems to be called 'useless'.

You need to understand how Carlyle's system works. His second line (in terms of minutes) is usually his shut-down line. These players are tasked with playing against the oppositions top forwards all night long, shadowing these players and cutting down their scoring chances. Of course alot of the time, this means being hemmed in your own zone (due to the high skill level of the opposition). You're doing your job very well if you limit their scoring chances and keep their shots to the outside. You are doing your job very exceptionally if you can keep that opposition hemmed in their own zone and are creating scoring chances of your own.

Either way, many people are simply misjudging Kulemin and the value he provides to the Leafs. There is a reason teams like the Blues and Pens have an interest in him. It's not a situation where he's truly a crappy player and many of you hope to get a decent return hoping the other team doesn't realize he's a crappy player. Teams employ scouts, these scouts have numerous jobs, one of which is to look around the league for players that could be involved in trades to better improve their team. Kulemin is sought after by these teams considered to be cup contenders because these are the type of players that help you win. Especially in the playoffs. Just like McClement.
Top notch post. I get really annoyed when people get on Kulemin. He's not a 30 goal scorer. He's better than the 7 goals he scored last year but his issues of last year and lack of goal scoring this year are being treated as the same problem when it isn't at all. Last year he dealt with grief and confidence issues. This year he's put in an entirely different role. There's good reason why Carlyle doesn't spend presser time talking about how Kulemin has work to do and how he needs to start finding the back of the net. He knows what he expects out of each of his line while ideally you would like all of your lines to pitch in offensively, the defensive assignments given to our checking line is more important than scoring tons of goals. Carlyle is pretty reasonable and fair when it comes to how he addresses the roles and performances of his players. If he isn't worried enough to call out Kulemin then I don't think we need to be worried either.

Ari91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:59 AM
  #221
New Liskeard
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 8,810
vCash: 500
Quote from Leo in the article;


Yeah, Grabovski will fight everybody," Komarov said smiling. "He's a pretty angry man."

Gave me a good laugh.

New Liskeard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:59 AM
  #222
Ari91
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,450
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leafski View Post
Here's a great article on Komarov:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=417427
Great write up on him. He definitely seems like an interesting guy and you can tell that he's an even keel personality just by the way he conducts himself on the ice. The NHL was his dream and it's great to see him not only doing well at the responsibilities given to him but also getting along reall well with his teammates. Sounds like he's enjoying his NHL experience so far.

Ari91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 10:59 AM
  #223
BonMorrison
Sexy Back
 
BonMorrison's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,369
vCash: 500
"Grabovski will fight everybody," Komarov said smiling. "He's a pretty angry man."


BonMorrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
03-06-2013, 08:55 PM
  #224
MastuhNinks
Registered User
 
MastuhNinks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: The Iron Throne
Posts: 4,358
vCash: 500
I love this guy, I really do. If I had the money I'd seriously consider getting a jersey with his name on it, but man he is an offensive black hole. The fact that he has 5 points despite all the chances he has been involved in is insane.

MastuhNinks is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:53 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.