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03-05-2013, 09:08 AM
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OK, so Pitt has the best player in the world (Crosby) and arguably the second best player in the world (Malkin). Both at C.

They have the #1 scoring LW(Kunitz) tied for 3rd overall in scoring.

They have the number 6 scoring LW (Neal)..

They have the number 1 scoring D (Letang).

They are the top scoring team in the league.

OMG they need wingers desperatley! Let's fix this so we can stop these incessant threads about Pitts needing top 6 wingers.

Can HF fans just GIVE them 2 top RW and be done with it?

How about Tampa Bay gives them St. Louis for picks and prospects (TB is out of the playoffs so can start rebuilding), Calgary gives them Iginla for picks and prospects, and for good measure Buffalo gives them Pominville for picks and prospects (just as a precaution in case of injury to any of the top 6).

The cupboard is bare but Pitt finally has some decent talent to play with Sid and Geno.

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03-05-2013, 09:13 AM
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I don't meant to interrupt your histrionics, but Pens fans have stated repeatedly that the winger isn't needed to score goals. The winger is needed for puck possession and to go into corners, and because wingers on Malkin's left this year have had the life span of a Spinal Tap drummer.

WE KNOW THEY SCORE A LOT. THAT'S NOT WHY WE WANT A TOP 6 WINGER.

Or maybe they just should have stuck with Zack Boychuk. You know, because we wouldn't want to annoy people by insisting that they need someone capable of keeping up with Malkin who isn't going to fall behind and/or flub every chance they get & drag the rest of the line down.

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03-05-2013, 09:15 AM
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Would love Iginla on Crosby's wing and would be willing to offer up a good return. However Bennett is not moving for a UFA. He's a 20 year old who is already playing well at the pro level and looks like he is going to stick for the season. Dealing a defensive prospect not named Despres makes sense since it is a position of strength but i'd still feel better if the deal involves an Iginla extension.

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I don't meant to interrupt your histrionics, but Pens fans have stated repeatedly that the winger isn't needed to score goals. The winger is needed for puck possession and to go into corners, and because wingers on Malkin's left this year have had the life span of a Spinal Tap drummer.

WE KNOW THEY SCORE A LOT. THAT'S NOT WHY WE WANT A TOP 6 WINGER.

Or maybe they just should have stuck with Zack Boychuk. You know, because we wouldn't want to annoy people by insisting that they need someone capable of keeping up with Malkin who isn't going to fall behind and/or flub every chance they get & drag the rest of the line down.
This "I can read GF/GA stats and hence know enough to tell you what you do and don't need" crap is seriously annoying.

Just look at Chicago, they are on a tear even though now that Kane has cooled down, they don't really have any forwards knocking at the top ranks in the stats, but the stats of their arguably sub-par goalies and soso defense with a not really grooving yet Keith/Seabrook pairing are off the charts. Obviously this cannot be because of Toews and Hossa and HF would tell you to quickly trade those two bums for offensive help. Right?

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03-05-2013, 10:25 AM
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It damn well better be true.
Shero better be asking about every top 6 winger available right now.
They need serious help in thier bottom six (anyone not named Sutter) and Cooke and Dupuis are just the guys to do it.

The tough thing for Shero though, is it's gonna probably cost him Despres to get what he wants. I imagine theres alot of interest in Harrington as well.
If the Iginla trade ended up involving Despres, Calgary could include Butler, who's a solid 4th dman at a low cap hit (and not much older) with a little more coming back Calgary's way in picks or prospects.

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03-05-2013, 10:37 AM
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I wouldn't overpay to get him (in which case the Flames would also have no reason to trade him) but this top 6 would be beautiful:

Kunitz - Crosby - Iginla
Bennett/Dupuis - Malkin - Neal
Would be a dream for Pens fans, for sure, but given that Iggy is going to be many contender's #1 target (if he's even on the block) I dont think we have what it takes to acquire him.

I hope if the price is too steep for other contenders (Bos, Phi) Iggy just extends with Calgary. If the Pens cant get him I hope nobody can.

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OK, so Pitt has the best player in the world (Crosby) and arguably the second best player in the world (Malkin). Both at C.

They have the #1 scoring LW(Kunitz) tied for 3rd overall in scoring.

They have the number 6 scoring LW (Neal)..

They have the number 1 scoring D (Letang).

They are the top scoring team in the league.

OMG they need wingers desperatley! Let's fix this so we can stop these incessant threads about Pitts needing top 6 wingers.

Can HF fans just GIVE them 2 top RW and be done with it?

How about Tampa Bay gives them St. Louis for picks and prospects (TB is out of the playoffs so can start rebuilding), Calgary gives them Iginla for picks and prospects, and for good measure Buffalo gives them Pominville for picks and prospects (just as a precaution in case of injury to any of the top 6).

The cupboard is bare but Pitt finally has some decent talent to play with Sid and Geno.

\rant
Someone has reached the end of their rope.

Just FYI, you dont have to go into this thread if the subject pisses you off. How is it any different from the other incessant trade threads (Stasny for Bozak+/Ryder, Halak, 2nd for Vinny/Schneider for whoever)?

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03-05-2013, 11:55 AM
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DO

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WANT.


Not at the cost being talked about here. Not for a rental. Shero should be diligently looking for a long term solution at wing. Not a rental for the cost of two firsts and a roster player as is being talked about in all of these threads.
If Iginla wants to be moved, its because he is tired of the Culture in Calgary and wants to win (ie win a Cup).

I dont see him coming back to Calgary for a few years (perhaps when his next contract is up)

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03-05-2013, 12:08 PM
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I disagree, we may have a poor defensive depth but if we had the choice of Morrow or Bennett I think we take Bennett at least with Sieloff, Ramage, Breen we have a chance at a couple of nhl players out of them we have no RW prospects period.
Bennett's played mostly LW as a pro.

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OK, so Pitt has the best player in the world (Crosby) and arguably the second best player in the world (Malkin). Both at C.

They have the #1 scoring LW(Kunitz) tied for 3rd overall in scoring.

They have the number 6 scoring LW (Neal)..

They have the number 1 scoring D (Letang).

They are the top scoring team in the league.

OMG they need wingers desperatley! Let's fix this so we can stop these incessant threads about Pitts needing top 6 wingers.

Can HF fans just GIVE them 2 top RW and be done with it?

How about Tampa Bay gives them St. Louis for picks and prospects (TB is out of the playoffs so can start rebuilding), Calgary gives them Iginla for picks and prospects, and for good measure Buffalo gives them Pominville for picks and prospects (just as a precaution in case of injury to any of the top 6).

The cupboard is bare but Pitt finally has some decent talent to play with Sid and Geno.

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Neal's a RWer these days.

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03-05-2013, 12:12 PM
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The tough thing for Shero though, is it's gonna probably cost him Despres to get what he wants. I imagine theres alot of interest in Harrington as well.
I think Harrington is virtually untouchable. Maybe for a signed Corey Perry, but I don't think Harrington goes anywhere.


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Iginla is exactly what the Pens need. The biggest problem will be his salary and how do the Pens retain all their guys that are unrestricted in the very near future.

Calgary will want a package similar to Nash.
Yeah, as others have said, no way is Iggy comparable to Nash to age and, more importantly, UFA status. You can, however, talk about a moderate package (Dustin Jeffrey + Tyler Kennedy + Olli Maata) that also includes a conditional 2014 1st rounder if Iggy re-signs.

Regarding the Pens' salary structure: I cannot envision a scenario in which Brooks Orpik is retained after this season, so that opens up $3.75 million. Also, Tyler Kennedy will either be traded or not retained, which frees up another $2million. That's almost $6million. I can't see Iggy wanting more than $6million if he wants to play with Pens/Crosby.


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Shero's been eyeing Iginla to target in a trade for about five years.

Until Calgary entertains the idea of moving him, there's nothing to see here.
True dat.

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03-05-2013, 12:16 PM
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It's cute that posters think that it will be a conditional pick included in an Iginla deal.

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Iginla on Pittsburgh would be scary good.

I have a feeling he won't get traded though.

My favourite part of the article is where it says "If Iginla is traded to the Pens, he will not have to clear waivers first"

Such morons writing this crap.
Not sure if serious but that was a joke in reference to the ROR Colorado issue..

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It won't happen because Calgary management is still living in denial and believes the team can make a splash in the playoffs.

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Maybe Kuniz and thats it.

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As an aside, it amazes me that no top FA wing over the past few years has not been calling and offering a bit of a discount to ride shotgun with Crosby or Malkin. You would think having either of those two putting goals on a silver platter all year would be attractive to one of the top wings. And yet nothing, or Shero is a moron turning them down right and left.
I think it has more to do with Shero not being interested in non "penguin type" players than players not interested in the Pens.

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Maybe Kuniz and thats it.
LOL. Pens won't be trading Kunitz. How on earth do you even convince yourself the Pens would trade Kunitz?? The Pens would trade a mid range prospect and 3rd to retain Iggy's services. Anything more and Shero walks away...

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LOL. Pens won't be trading Kunitz. How on earth do you even convince yourself the Pens would trade Kunitz?? The Pens would trade a mid range prospect and 3rd to retain Iggy's services. Anything more and Shero walks away...
We wouldn't want Kunitz and a 3rd a half decent prospect is terrible we will just keep Iggy if thats the offer.

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We wouldn't want Kunitz and a 3rd a half decent prospect is terrible we will just keep Iggy if thats the offer.
You can have him then... he isn't worth a 1st

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I can't be the only one that thinks the Penguins need to take care of their D first and foremost. Then Iginla would be great of course, but they are already the top scoring team and their defense has some big problems.

Does anyone else feel this way?

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It's cute that posters think that it will be a conditional pick included in an Iginla deal.
Indeed. Inspires a chuckle every time.

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Indeed. Inspires a chuckle every time.
I think everyone is having chuckles all around. But do agree that a 1st (unconditional) would be included in almost every Iginla deal. Conditional picks may be added based on re-signing.

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You can have him then... he isn't worth a 1st
If the Pens acquire Iginla, your in for a big surprise.

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You can have him then... he isn't worth a 1st
I have no problem keeping the guy that has 12 straight 30 goal seasons, if he isn't worth a first then I don't know how other rentals got a first plus.

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It's cute that posters think that it will be a conditional pick included in an Iginla deal.

No, what's cute is you believe it won't be conditional. See Carter or Nash's deal both included conditional firsts.

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Water is wet. I'd be more surprised if Pittsburgh wasn't eyeing Iginla. The real question is whether Calgary is willing to trade him.


I doubt it.

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