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03-05-2013, 01:55 PM
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proposed the same thing a while back in a thread re. Rangers needing a PMD/PP specialist type d-man...

i bet the two teams have been talking about a move with these two guys being the focal point, likely with the habs pushing Kaberle instead and the rangers wanting Weber+.

with the habs playing as well as they are, there is no need for them to make any move that doesn't clearly benefit them, especially not in moving a guy like Weber, whose value is much lower than what it should be b/c of his lack of use with the habs (which is much more a reflection of their depth in that role/position than it is of his inability to play regular NHL minutes).

I'd add perhaps a late round pick, or a depth prospect, not much more than that.

Moen-Boyle has potential from habs pov as well, though hard to see why the Rangers would want to take on the term on Moen's deal when he's less productive/versatile than Boyle, not too mention older and struggling to fill his role effectively this season.

Boyle would be a nice addition to Mtl's 4th line, we could use the size & face-off effectiveness he'd add to the C position for us.

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03-05-2013, 02:03 PM
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Boyle takes most defensive FO's, hits, kills penalties, is trusted late to protect leads and has proven he shows up come playoff time.
Those skills are valued.
If Rangers are trading Boyle, and that's a big if, they would get a better return than Weber and/or Moen IMO.

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03-05-2013, 02:08 PM
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Boyle + 2nd
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Weber + Moen + MTL 3rd

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Boyle takes most defensive FO's, hits, kills penalties, is trusted late to protect leads and has proven he shows up come playoff time.
Those skills are valued.
If Rangers are trading Boyle, and that's a big if, they would get a better return than Weber and/or Moen IMO.
He also had great chemistry with Prust, both on the PK and in shutdown situations. Boyle is terribly underrated. Good locker room guy too.

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He also had great chemistry with Prust, both on the PK and in shutdown situations. Boyle is terribly underrated. Good locker room guy too.
Because most fans look for flashy plays, nice goal, nice pass, great hit, great save, good fight. They overlook the little details that contribute to a win.
Boyle is not flashy but does the grunt work quietly.

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03-05-2013, 03:34 PM
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Because most fans look for flashy plays, nice goal, nice pass, great hit, great save, good fight. They overlook the little details that contribute to a win.
Boyle is not flashy but does the grunt work quietly.
The fact that you recognize this and people who watch the Rangers night in night out dont is just sad.

He is extremely valuable and just the kind of depth pieces that are important for cup winning teams.

He makes 1.5 million dollars a year and does all the little things INCREDIBLY well.

He was huge for us in the playoffs last year as well and can play when the pressures on.

Personally, I love him and don't care if he scores 3 goals all year. I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder, let alone Weber who wouldn't even replace Gilroy right now.

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03-05-2013, 03:37 PM
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The fact that you recognize this and people who watch the Rangers night in night out dont is just sad.

He is extremely valuable and just the kind of depth pieces that are important for cup winning teams.

He makes 1.5 million dollars a year and does all the little things INCREDIBLY well.

He was huge for us in the playoffs last year as well and can play when the pressures on.

Personally, I love him and don't care if he scores 3 goals all year. I wouldn't trade him for a 2nd rounder, let alone Weber who wouldn't even replace Gilroy right now.
For the record, I am a rangers fan.

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We need someone who can play more than 6 minutes a night on the 3rd pairing, not another Matt Gilroy.
He's slightly better than Gilroy. Like, a smidgen.

Brian Boyle is just being treated unfairly imo. He's worth much more than Weber.

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for the record, i am a rangers fan.
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Moen and Weber for Boyle would work for me.

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I say keep Boyle or move him in a package for a #4/5 D for the 3rd pairing. Boyle+Thomas+3rd for Jan Hejda?

His game is very well suited to the playoffs too. If we're gonna make a serious Cup run this year we need all the grit we can get, and I would much rather line Halpern up at 4RW than Stu Bickel.

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Boyle is a the Rangers top PKing center and is around #10 in the league on faceoffs at over 57%. He's only spare parts to fans whose understanding of hockey is aa trustworthy as plus minus. This trade is about as reasonable as Matt Gilroy for Brandon Prust.

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