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03-05-2013, 12:58 PM
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KH is not allowed to trade roster players,

lashoff will be sent down to GR

huskins will replace lashoff in GR should Detroit make the playoffs

kindl will be detroits #7 dman should they make the playoffs

white will be let go in the offseason
Sure, let's send down a guy who was signed to a 3 year/725K one-way deal to GR.

White will most likely be traded for picks.

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03-05-2013, 01:34 PM
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With Burns being out and the 2nd unit PP so freaking teribble for the Sharks I bet they would love to still have White in the lineup.

How about a straight swap for Murray?
We have 9 defenders. If we trade White I assume it wouldn't be to receive another defender.

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03-05-2013, 01:41 PM
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We have 9 defenders. If we trade White I assume it wouldn't be to receive another defender.
If they do, it'll be a younger guy. Im sure they'd prefer a guy right out of college or in the AHL already. Mid grade guy like Alt out of Philly or Biega out of Carolina. If it's a D.

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03-05-2013, 01:46 PM
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Sure, let's send down a guy who was signed to a 3 year/725K one-way deal to GR.

White will most likely be traded for picks.
It doesn't start until next year, why would it matter for this season?

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03-05-2013, 01:52 PM
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It doesn't start until next year, why would it matter for this season?
He's playing top minutes which is more than anyone expected. Let him just keep doing what he's doing. It's not like they would send him down to get more minutes.

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03-05-2013, 02:15 PM
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He's playing top minutes which is more than anyone expected. Let him just keep doing what he's doing. It's not like they would send him down to get more minutes.
He was playing top minutes and he looked over matched and you could tell he wasn't ready for it. He's potential is that of a #5/6/7 and that's where he is playing right now, he's playing fine but you could still easily make a case for him to be sent down. His IT over the past 4 games has been:

March 3rd CHI vs DET: 21:05 4th among dmen (4PP against, 2PP for)
February 28th DET vs SJ: 13:45 6th among dmen (1PP against, 2PP for)
February 27th DET vs LA: 15:47 5th among dmen (3PP against, 5PP for)
February 24th VAN vs DET: 16:34 6th among dmen (3PP against, 6PP for)

Over the past 4 games Lashoff has played on average around 16:30 a game. Take out last game it's even lower. Lashoff is on okay 3rd pairing guy & is good on the PK, that's where he will get his minutes. However if we can get somebody who is better then him or offers something else we need we should have no problem sending him down to the AHL.

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03-05-2013, 02:21 PM
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Few possible reasons

1. We could be waiting for Colacovo to get fully healthy before dealing any D.

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03-05-2013, 02:29 PM
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Sure, let's send down a guy who was signed to a 3 year/725K one-way deal to GR.

White will most likely be traded for picks.
I do not believe that KH will trade a roster dman when he has other options

sending lashoff to GR whne he does not have to clear waivers and when his new deal is not in effect will be an easier decision for KH to make when the time comes.

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03-05-2013, 02:40 PM
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He was playing top minutes and he looked over matched and you could tell he wasn't ready for it. He's potential is that of a #5/6/7 and that's where he is playing right now, he's playing fine but you could still easily make a case for him to be sent down. His IT over the past 4 games has been:

March 3rd CHI vs DET: 21:05 4th among dmen (4PP against, 2PP for)
February 28th DET vs SJ: 13:45 6th among dmen (1PP against, 2PP for)
February 27th DET vs LA: 15:47 5th among dmen (3PP against, 5PP for)
February 24th VAN vs DET: 16:34 6th among dmen (3PP against, 6PP for)

Over the past 4 games Lashoff has played on average around 16:30 a game. Take out last game it's even lower. Lashoff is on okay 3rd pairing guy & is good on the PK, that's where he will get his minutes. However if we can get somebody who is better then him or offers something else we need we should have no problem sending him down to the AHL.
yea, but Im sure if you add the ten games before that it goes back up. He's played better than anyone could've expected, he's getting real NHL minutes and he's doing just fine. Sure, if there's a better option they could send him down. Ian White just isnt a better option right now and that's why Lashoff is playing and White is sitting.

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03-05-2013, 02:41 PM
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I'd be fine with either a 2nd/3rd or Doug Murray straight up. Knowing Holland, though, I imagine Lashoff will be sent to GR, Huskins will be placed on waivers and White will jump back into the line-up.

Detroit will go with Kronwall-Ericsson, Quincey-Smith, Colaiacovo-White and Kindl. It seems like the most likely scenario.

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03-05-2013, 02:43 PM
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With Burns being out and the 2nd unit PP so freaking teribble for the Sharks I bet they would love to still have White in the lineup.

How about a straight swap for Murray?
Murray would never make it into the Wings line up. No point.

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Would love to have him back with Toronto, would be a much better option for top 4 minutes instead of Holzer and Kostka.

What would Wings fans be looking for from Toronto?
I would have though Toronto needs another Dman like a hole in the head.

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yea, but Im sure if you add the ten games before that it goes back up. He's played better than anyone could've expected, he's getting real NHL minutes and he's doing just fine. Sure, if there's a better option they could send him down. Ian White just isnt a better option right now and that's why Lashoff is playing and White is sitting.
During those first games when he played with Kronwall he looked pretty over-matched (look at the pairs +/- for those games compared to everyone else's). Just look at his past couple games, he's been much more consistent with his play, even to the point where he is invisible most nights, I have no stats to prove it but I'm certain he's playing less even strength minutes then before.

White last played on the 24th in which he was -2 in our big win over Vancouver. Before that he was -2 in his past 4 games, in his past 5 games he's -4. Right now our defence is playing extremely well allowing only 4 goals in the past 3 games, Lashoff is a part of it but he's playing 2nd PK minutes and 3rd pairing minutes, not some heavy duty minutes and easily replaced. Whether it's by White or even CC when he's healthy I don't know but we'll have to wait and see.

The only reason Lashoff is in over White is that we're playing really well defensively right now and Lashoff has size that White doesn't.

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03-05-2013, 04:02 PM
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what would you guys want from the sens?
mind you white may only turn out to be a rental for us
due to being a UFA at seasons end.

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03-05-2013, 05:11 PM
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what would you guys want from the sens?
mind you white may only turn out to be a rental for us
due to being a UFA at seasons end.
How about that Silfverberg guy...

I'd want a 2nd+3rd for him, the same return as Oduya. I think somebody would offer a 2nd for him but I think you could wrestle out a 3rd as well.

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