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03-05-2013, 09:19 PM
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Really ? Perry is on the record for not wanting to play in a big market. He's gone on July 1st...well 5th this yr.
WHY? Why don't players want to play in a big market?

Isn't that the place you would love to shine?

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Brooks Laich + Jeff Schultz + 2nd?
Rags get a hardworking, multi-dimensional player in the tortorella mold, an upgrade for their 3rd pairing and a pretty high 2nd round pick!
It's pretty even salary-wise, which it would have to be.

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Fisher+Blum/Ellis+1st?

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Little + Antropov + Tangradi + 2013 2nd for Gaborik.

NYR gets instant playoff depth, WPG gets a shakeup.
How about Little and Bogo for Gabby?

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I'd look to move Richards too. No question that Gaborik has been more valuable during his tenure here. It's going to be tough to move Richards with a $6.6 million cap hit, with the term he has, and the type of production he has put out.

A lot of teams would be interested in a $7.5 million multiple 40 goal scorer. I wouldn't make that move. Our depth is already shallow with "top end" talent. You move Gaborik for a 2nd liner / 3rd liner and a draft pick and you make the term worse. The bottom line is, besides Nash, he's the only pure goal scorer on the team. If Nash got injured, or vice versa, the team would be screwed.

The Rangers wouldn't move Gaborik without getting a legitimate goal scorer in return. And if they're just swapping goal scorers, what's the point?
Age would be important as would fit. But agreed, I would want to move Richards first.

If Gaborik could be replaced for a guy 5 years young who fits the style better its a no brainer.

Richards however has a NMC. He'd likely need to be the amnesty buyout candidate. I'd wait for a good UFA class, execute the buyout, and court a replacement.

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Brooks Laich + Jeff Schultz + 2nd?
Rags get a hardworking, multi-dimensional player in the tortorella mold, an upgrade for their 3rd pairing and a pretty high 2nd round pick!
It's pretty even salary-wise, which it would have to be.
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How about Little and Bogo for Gabby?
I think we'd need to give up more TBH.

I proposed Gaborik & MDZ
for Little and Bogo

Winnipeg is better right away and we save money plus get younger - and get a more balanced RH/LH dman split.

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Age would be important as would fit. But agreed, I would want to move Richards first.

If Gaborik could be replaced for a guy 5 years young who fits the style better its a no brainer.

Richards however has a NMC. He'd likely need to be the amnesty buyout candidate. I'd wait for a good UFA class, execute the buyout, and court a replacement.
The idea that Richards is going to be traded needs to exit the minds of Rangers fans. Should he retire after 6 season, the Rangers would be screwed with the cap recapture in the final 3 years.

He will get bought out before he he traded.

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I think we'd need to give up more TBH.

I proposed Gaborik & MDZ
for Little and Bogo

Winnipeg is better right away and we save money plus get younger - and get a more balanced RH/LH dman split.
MDZ = Little
Gaborik for Bogo? I'd want more.

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The idea that Richards is going to be traded needs to exit the minds of Rangers fans. Should he retire after 6 season, the Rangers would be screwed with the cap recapture in the final 3 years.

He will get bought out before he he traded.
I agree. Also that NMC is a major roadblock.
2014 buyout Richards, try for Malkin if available - if not have a contingency.

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also I think we are going to need to address the LW position in any potential trade.

Nash and Cally have the RW on lock. We need a legit top 6 LW

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MDZ = Little
Gaborik for Bogo? I'd want more.
Maybe.
If we were to get more, I'd be looking at more 2nd/3rd line depth.

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Maybe.
If we were to get more, I'd be looking at more 2nd/3rd line depth.
Gaborik + Del Zotto for Little and Zach B. is a TERRIBLE move.

First of all, we don't need another defense men. If we move Gaborik, a defense man isn't coming the other way. There is no reason to move Del Zotto in this trade. Our defensive core is set with Del Zotto, McDonagh, Staal and Girardi.

Secondly, WPG would need to give up a lot more than Little to acquire Gaborik. That is a no brainer.

Thirdly, I think all of this Gaborik trade talk is a little premature. Let's see how Nash can do with a full season under his belt in NY before we trade a guy who has scored 40 goals for us twice. A 17 game sample with Rick Nash, as great as he has looked, is too small a sample to say "we're set here, let's trade our top scoring winger."

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Zibanejad,Z.Smith, Gonchar/Wiercioch for Gabby & Boyle.
I do not want to move Gaborik at all, but if you replaced Smith with Greening I would have to do that deal. Would understand if you wouldn't/couldn't do that though.

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Fisher+Blum/Ellis+1st?
I would probably do that, and I REALLY don't want to part with our first this year. I would probably aim to make it Blum and a first along with Fisher or Ellis and a lesser pick, as he's a better player and looking like he's going to be very good, despite being two years younger.

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I do not want to move Gaborik at all, but if you replaced Smith with Greening I would have to do that deal. Would understand if you wouldn't/couldn't do that though.
I'd do it... Zibby,Greening,Gonchar/Wiercioch.. I was purely putting Z.Smith in the deal for your 3rd Line C need.

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I would probably do that, and I REALLY don't want to part with our first this year. I would probably aim to make it Blum and a first along with Fisher or Ellis and a lesser pick, as he's a better player and looking like he's going to be very good, despite being two years younger.
Rangers would need a D+Forward, so Fisher would have to be involved, IMO - I think he fits the team perfectly, and adds forward depth.

An offensively skilled RH D would also be a huge piece coming back for the Rangers...it would solidify our D:

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-Blum/Ellis
Del Zotto-Stralman

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Filppula is set to be a UFA this summer

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I'd do it... Zibby,Greening,Gonchar/Wiercioch.. I was purely putting Z.Smith in the deal for your 3rd Line C need.
that's as solid a deal as we are going to find anywhere.

that takes into consideration getting either Smith or Greening


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Gaborik + Del Zotto for Little and Zach B. is a TERRIBLE move.

First of all, we don't need another defense men. If we move Gaborik, a defense man isn't coming the other way. There is no reason to move Del Zotto in this trade. Our defensive core is set with Del Zotto, McDonagh, Staal and Girardi.

Secondly, WPG would need to give up a lot more than Little to acquire Gaborik. That is a no brainer.

Thirdly, I think all of this Gaborik trade talk is a little premature. Let's see how Nash can do with a full season under his belt in NY before we trade a guy who has scored 40 goals for us twice. A 17 game sample with Rick Nash, as great as he has looked, is too small a sample to say "we're set here, let's trade our top scoring winger."
Little is worth more than Gaborik and Zach B. is worth way more than Del Zotto.

Maybe Gaborik has better numbers but Little is an affordable and versatile player that many teams want and need. As a Habs fan Little makes sense but Gaborik doesn't unless you want Bourque + Kaberle or Gionta which doesn't help you at all. With a shrinking cap next year there will be even less interest in Gaborik.

Little will fetch a good young player or two on a good contract in return and Gaborik might fetch a Heatley or someone like that.

Look at what we got for Cole, I'd rather have Cole then Gaborik because of cap space and all we got was a 3rd and an expiring contract for a 35 goal scorer last year. It's all about freeing up cap space not adding $7.5 million when teams have to shed $5 million or so.

Zach B. would be worth about the same as what J. Staal fetched last year and Del Zotto would never get anything near that in trade.

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Little is worth more than Gaborik and Zach B. is worth way more than Del Zotto.

Maybe Gaborik has better numbers but Little is an affordable and versatile player that many teams want and need. As a Habs fan Little makes sense but Gaborik doesn't unless you want Bourque + Kaberle or Gionta which doesn't help you at all. With a shrinking cap next year there will be even less interest in Gaborik.

Little will fetch a good young player or two on a good contract in return and Gaborik might fetch a Heatley or someone like that.

Look at what we got for Cole, I'd rather have Cole then Gaborik because of cap space and all we got was a 3rd and an expiring contract for a 35 goal scorer last year. It's all about freeing up cap space not adding $7.5 million when teams have to shed $5 million or so.

Zach B. would be worth about the same as what J. Staal fetched last year and Del Zotto would never get anything near that in trade.
There's so much wrong in this awful post I don't even know where to begin. It's that bad.

I don't move Gaborik straight up for Little. Neither does any Rangers fan. Neither does anyone who actually watches hockey. Neither does anyone who doesn't watch hockey. I think you're the only one on this planet that believes that Bryan ****ing Little is more valuable than Gaborik.

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Fisher+Blum/Ellis+1st?
I would probably do it Fisher + Blum + 1st(2014?)

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Little is worth more than Gaborik and Zach B. is worth way more than Del Zotto.

Maybe Gaborik has better numbers but Little is an affordable and versatile player that many teams want and need. As a Habs fan Little makes sense but Gaborik doesn't unless you want Bourque + Kaberle or Gionta which doesn't help you at all. With a shrinking cap next year there will be even less interest in Gaborik.

Little will fetch a good young player or two on a good contract in return and Gaborik might fetch a Heatley or someone like that.

Look at what we got for Cole, I'd rather have Cole then Gaborik because of cap space and all we got was a 3rd and an expiring contract for a 35 goal scorer last year. It's all about freeing up cap space not adding $7.5 million when teams have to shed $5 million or so.

Zach B. would be worth about the same as what J. Staal fetched last year and Del Zotto would never get anything near that in trade.
I liked Little in Atlanta. More trade value than Gaborik? No way in hell.

I don't even know where to begin with this.

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If NYR want more depth right now,

Flippula (top 6 winger or good 3rd line C), Cleary/Eaves/Abdelkader (3rd/4th line Winger), White (Top 4 Right shooting D).

Problem is Flip, Cleary are both UFA after this year and White only has 1 year left.

Only make sense if Rangers want players for this year's playoff run.

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