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03-06-2013, 03:26 AM
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We are really jumping the gun thinking he can come over and help this season. if he played wing maybe but at center he would need to learn our system which he wouldn't have time to do. KHL is a completely different animal compared to the NHL, just because Tarasenko looked good does not mean Lehtera will be able to adjust to the smaller, faster, more physical game.

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03-06-2013, 03:51 AM
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We are really jumping the gun thinking he can come over and help this season. if he played wing maybe but at center he would need to learn our system which he wouldn't have time to do. KHL is a completely different animal compared to the NHL, just because Tarasenko looked good does not mean Lehtera will be able to adjust to the smaller, faster, more physical game.
Adding him can't hurt though. He won't be at his best because he will have to make adjustments but he is still a playmaking, 6'2, 210lbs centre that has won over 55% of his faceoffs in the KHL and has been playing. Expecting Lehterä to be a game-changer immediately would be expecting too much.

If he is totally out of his depth then we find that out now rather than next season. Arnott might be used to the NA game, but he is just a warm body at this point. Lehterä might provide a little of what we are missing. If he could do that, it might be as effective as a trade.

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Nobody assumes he can help this season. But what's the risk of coming over now that his season is done and skating with the team in practice? If he isn't ready, he gets a clear idea of what he has to improve in the summer (and also gets a dose of reality about being promised an NHL spot automatically), and if he is ready then it's a fortunate prospect callup.

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03-06-2013, 03:53 AM
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Here's the latest on 2008 3rd-rounder Jori Lehtera: His season in Russia has ended. #stlblues will be in contact with him about his future.
This could be good news on the Lehtera front. Right now would be the perfect time for him to make his transition. Nothing has been set in stone with Arnott yet so perhaps they were/are waiting to see what Lehtera's plans are. Hopefully he gets his *** over here sooner rather then later.

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03-06-2013, 10:49 AM
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This could be good news on the Lehtera front. Right now would be the perfect time for him to make his transition. Nothing has been set in stone with Arnott yet so perhaps they were/are waiting to see what Lehtera's plans are. Hopefully he gets his *** over here sooner rather then later.
Question on my end. I know Lehtera is a draft pick and property in name playing overseas in the KHL, would Lehtera have to clear waivers to join the Blues this season?

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03-06-2013, 10:55 AM
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Question on my end. I know Lehtera is a draft pick and property in name playing overseas in the KHL, would Lehtera have to clear waivers to join the Blues this season?
I think he's still an RFA, so no.

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03-06-2013, 10:57 AM
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Question on my end. I know Lehtera is a draft pick and property in name playing overseas in the KHL, would Lehtera have to clear waivers to join the Blues this season?
No, the rules changed with the new CBA. Previously any player who had played in Europe after the NHL season had started had to pass through waivers. Under the new CBA, RFA (which Lehterä is) are waiver exempt.

Ryan O'Reilly played in the KHL after the NHL season started and did not have to clear waivers to play for the Avs. The same would apply if we can sign Lehterä in the coming days.

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No, the rules changed with the new CBA. Previously any player who had played in Europe after the NHL season had started had to pass through waivers. Under the new CBA, RFA (which Lehterä is) are waiver exempt.

Ryan O'Reilly played in the KHL after the NHL season started and did not have to clear waivers to play for the Avs. The same would apply if we can sign Lehterä in the coming days.
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03-06-2013, 12:50 PM
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Andrey Osadchenko, Russian reporter says he hasn't heard anything regarding Lehtera joining the Blues.

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03-06-2013, 12:55 PM
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Andrey Osadchenko, Russian reporter says he hasn't heard anything regarding Lehtera joining the Blues.
Is he reliable or does he feed the KHL like Khavanov regarding Tarasenko? I wasn't expecting to hear anything so soon anyway.

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03-06-2013, 02:09 PM
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Is he reliable or does he feed the KHL like Khavanov regarding Tarasenko? I wasn't expecting to hear anything so soon anyway.
He is usually pretty knowledgable. I shot him a tweet this morning and asked him if he has heard anything about Lehtera coming over now that Sibir was eliminated.

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03-06-2013, 02:31 PM
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Not really surprising. Even if the Blues are pursuing this, they would only have made contact with Lehterä/Sibir after the Kings game last night at the very earliest.

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I have seen it in the threads a couple places that Blues have to deal with the Czech league before Lehtera will be free to come over. Would someone mind explaining this further for me? My apologies, I'm not at all knowledgeable on the business side of hockey and was wondering what the problem was.

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I have seen it in the threads a couple places that Blues have to deal with the Czech league before Lehtera will be free to come over. Would someone mind explaining this further for me? My apologies, I'm not at all knowledgeable on the business side of hockey and was wondering what the problem was.
Jaskin in the prospect that needs to be released by his Czeck team before he can sign his ELC.

Lehtera is a blues RFA that has been playing in the KHL. It is believed he has an out in KHL contract to allow him to come over to NA. His season has just finished but his contract does not end until April. He may be able to buy out of his contract and join the Blues this year.

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Jaskin in the prospect that needs to be released by his Czeck team before he can sign his ELC.

Lehtera is a blues RFA that has been playing in the KHL. It is believed he has an out in KHL contract to allow him to come over to NA. His season has just finished but his contract does not end until April. He may be able to buy out of his contract and join the Blues this year.
Oops. Wrong guy, wrong thread, just all kinds of wrong. I made a boo-boo, but thanks for explaining that for me.

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Oops. Wrong guy, wrong thread, just all kinds of wrong. I made a boo-boo, but thanks for explaining that for me.
Just to prevent future confusion I thought I would add just because a season is over does not mean a players contract is over. For example all NHL contract end on June 30 of whatever year. Contracts do not end when the team is eliminated. That is why for some prospects you would need permission from the league/team before the player can come over

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Just to prevent future confusion I thought I would add just because a season is over does not mean a players contract is over. For example all NHL contract end on June 30 of whatever year. Contracts do not end when the team is eliminated. That is why for some prospects you would need permission from the league/team before the player can come over
At least the KHL and NHL have been on better relations lately. If Lehtera tells Sibir that he won't return, I think they would release him to us. Also, if Lehtera decides to test the free agent market in Russia, I'd imagine that one of the top teams in Russia would go after him.

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03-09-2013, 06:32 AM
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Just to prevent future confusion I thought I would add just because a season is over does not mean a players contract is over. For example all NHL contract end on June 30 of whatever year. Contracts do not end when the team is eliminated. That is why for some prospects you would need permission from the league/team before the player can come over
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At least the KHL and NHL have been on better relations lately. If Lehtera tells Sibir that he won't return, I think they would release him to us. Also, if Lehtera decides to test the free agent market in Russia, I'd imagine that one of the top teams in Russia would go after him.
This is great information, you guys all seem to be in the know. I'm trying to get better educated on it all, it's slow going but still going. So many ins and outs and these talented prospects have options, I find it all very intriguing.

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03-12-2013, 12:32 PM
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So the updates are:

Lehtera wants to play in the NHL. Not a big surprise, but at least it confirms his desires.

Apparently Strickland believes that the Blues won't pressure him to play in the AHL, so he could have a spot like Tarasenko had. This all depends on who his source is, but Strickland has been better on these types of topics lately IMO.

Lehtera can opt out of his contract after April 30, making it not till next season that we'd see him in a Blues jersey.

We hold his rights till he is 27, so it is likely that he will either play for us or we get some value for him. He is 25 btw.

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03-12-2013, 12:55 PM
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Wow, good news. Maybe he'll have an opt out clause that lets him go back to Europe if he doesn't want to play in the AHL.

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03-12-2013, 01:04 PM
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Potential lineup:

Schwartz-Backes-Oshie
Perron-Berglund-Stewart
Steen-Lehtera-Tarasenko
Sobotka-Nichol-Reaves

Jackman-Pietrangelo
Cole/trade/UFA-Shattenkirk
Russell-Polak

Halak
Allen

Save $9.15 with McDonald, Langenbrunner, D'Agostini, and Elliott gone.

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How reliable Strickland usually is?

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How reliable Strickland usually is?
He's as good as his sources, and the only thing that could be considered a Stickland opinion is about Lehtera and the minors. It makes sense that we wouldn't pressure him to play in the AHL because if we sign him, it won't be for league minimum, so we'd be wasting that money in the minors. He's 25 and has been playing in the next best league, so he should be able to handle the physicality.

Cajanek could be considered a decent comparison on how he came over and went straight to the NHL at 27. Honestly, I'd be happy if Lehtera puts up similar production to Cajanek, 40-50 points would be great.

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03-12-2013, 03:45 PM
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I think bringing in Lehtera would also help Tarasenko with his progress by bringing over a friendly face and feel a little bit more comfortable. Also I think Lehtera could be the perfect 3rd line C. I don't expect him to ever put up any more points than say 45-50 but I also wouldn't be disappointed either.

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So the updates are:

Lehtera wants to play in the NHL. Not a big surprise, but at least it confirms his desires.

Apparently Strickland believes that the Blues won't pressure him to play in the AHL, so he could have a spot like Tarasenko had. This all depends on who his source is, but Strickland has been better on these types of topics lately IMO.

Lehtera can opt out of his contract after April 30, making it not till next season that we'd see him in a Blues jersey.

We hold his rights till he is 27, so it is likely that he will either play for us or we get some value for him. He is 25 btw.
Nothing new there. He clearly stated he wanted to play in the NHL a couple of months ago, standard that you can only opt out at the end of a contract year (contracts run until April 30 in the KHL) and the no AHL is pretty obvious because he'll only sign a 1-way contract.

We should be trying to get him over this season though, get a look at him and know where we stand. He can't use his opt-out until May, but Sibir can release him. It would make sense that they wouldn't want to burn bridges in case he went back to the KHL.

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