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03-06-2013, 11:49 AM
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Compare the 2013 lineup with past players

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Compare an actual player with a player from another edition
  • Talent
  • Style

Hard to compare young players like Galchenyuk, Gallagher etc so I suggest we go based on potential or just the style of play.


2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L ---
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Y Perrault
51 David Desharnais C ---
79 Andrei Markov D ---
76 P.K. Subban D ---
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Saku Koivu
61 Raphael Diaz D ---
27 Alex Galchenyuk C ---
21 Brian Gionta R ---
81 Lars Eller F ---
17 Rene Bourque L --- Latendresse
74 Alexei Emelin D ---
8 Brandon Prust L ---
55 Francis Bouillon D ---
73 Michael Ryder R ---
32 Travis Moen L ---
26 Josh Gorges D ---
22 Tomas Kaberle D ---
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Steve Bégin
53 Ryan White C ---
68 Yannick Weber D ---
30 Peter Budaj G --- Any good backup
31 Carey Price G ---


Really harder that I imagined, I'll come back later with more

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Maybe just me but Eller=Dainius Zubrus

Zubrus was part of a big trade, everyone expect him to be the big centre Mtl is missing, similar to Eller.

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Rules:

Compare an actual player with a player from another edition
  • Talent
  • Style

Hard to compare young players like Galchenyuk, Gallagher etc so I suggest we go based on potential or just the style of play.


2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L ---
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Y Perrault
51 David Desharnais C ---
79 Andrei Markov D ---
76 P.K. Subban D ---
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Saku Koivu
61 Raphael Diaz D ---
27 Alex Galchenyuk C ---
21 Brian Gionta R ---
81 Lars Eller F ---
17 Rene Bourque L --- Latendresse
74 Alexei Emelin D ---
8 Brandon Prust L ---
55 Francis Bouillon D ---
73 Michael Ryder R ---
32 Travis Moen L ---
26 Josh Gorges D ---
22 Tomas Kaberle D ---
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Steve Bégin
53 Ryan White C ---
68 Yannick Weber D ---
30 Peter Budaj G --- Any good backup
31 Carey Price G ---


Really harder that I imagined, I'll come back later with more
Raphael Diaz --- Mark Streit

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55 Francis Bouillon D --- Dandouillon

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I think this is pretty accurate



2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L --- Lindros
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Trevor Linden
51 David Desharnais C --- Poor man's saku koivu
79 Andrei Markov D --- Desjardins
76 P.K. Subban D --- Chelios
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Martin Rucinsky
61 Raphael Diaz D --- Patrice Brisebois circa 95
27 Alex Galchenyuk C --- Richard Zednik
21 Brian Gionta R --- Sundstrom
81 Lars Eller F --- Marcel Hossa or valeri bure--- all the hype and tools but no finish (still young)
17 Rene Bourque L --- Latendresse
74 Alexei Emelin D --- O'byrne
8 Brandon Prust L --- Bigger and grittier Steve Begin (love prust)
55 Francis Bouillon D --- Francis Bouillon
73 Michael Ryder R --- Chris Higgins
32 Travis Moen L --- Turner Stevenson
26 Josh Gorges D --- Craig Rivet (lulz)
22 Tomas Kaberle D --- Stephane Quinta
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Chad Kilger
53 Ryan White C --- "insert any energy player that can drop the mitts"
68 Yannick Weber D --- Mark Streit that never could
30 Peter Budaj G --- Andy Moog 98'
31 Carey Price G --- shades of theodore circa 2001 and shades of theodore circa 2004

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03-06-2013, 01:18 PM
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Quintal - Emelin is a good one to.

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03-06-2013, 01:37 PM
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2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L ---John LeClair
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Mats Naslund
51 David Desharnais C ---Saku Koivu
79 Andrei Markov D ---Guy Lapointe
76 P.K. Subban D --- Chris Chelios
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Claude Lemieux
61 Raphael Diaz D ---Desjardins
27 Alex Galchenyuk C ---Guy Lafleur
21 Brian Gionta R ---Steve Shutt
81 Lars Eller F ---Bobby Smith
17 Rene Bourque L --- Stephane Richer
74 Alexei Emelin D ---Ludwig
8 Brandon Prust L ---Chris Nilan
55 Francis Bouillon D ---Rick Green
73 Michael Ryder R ---Kjell Dahlin
32 Travis Moen L ---Mike Mcphee
26 Josh Gorges D ---Petr Svoboda
22 Tomas Kaberle D ---Brisebois
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Matthew Higgins
53 Ryan White C --- Ryan Walter
68 Yannick Weber D --- Tom Kurvers
30 Peter Budaj G --- Brian Hayward
31 Carey Price G ---Patrick Roy


Off the top of my head so... I tried.


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03-06-2013, 02:21 PM
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2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L ---John LeClair
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Mats Naslund
51 David Desharnais C ---Saku Koivu
79 Andrei Markov D ---Guy Lapointe
76 P.K. Subban D --- Chris Chelios
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Claude Lemieux

61 Raphael Diaz D ---Desjardins
27 Alex Galchenyuk C ---Guy Lafleur
21 Brian Gionta R ---Steve Shutt
81 Lars Eller F ---Bobby Smith
17 Rene Bourque L --- Stephane Richer
74 Alexei Emelin D ---Ludwig
8 Brandon Prust L ---Chris Nilan
55 Francis Bouillon D ---Rick Green
73 Michael Ryder R ---Kjell Dahlin
32 Travis Moen L ---Mike Mcphee
26 Josh Gorges D ---Petr Svoboda
22 Tomas Kaberle D ---Brisebois
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Matthew Higgins
53 Ryan White C --- Ryan Walter
68 Yannick Weber D --- Tom Kurvers
30 Peter Budaj G --- Brian Hayward
31 Carey Price G ---Patrick Roy


Off the top of my head so... I tried.
I like the bolded ones. At first I was unsure about the Gallagher – Lemieux comparison but after a while, I liked it!

Mine are:

Eller: Bulis
Desharnais: between Stéphane Lebeau and Saku Koivu
Galchenyuk: Kjell Dahlin
Subban : Chelios
Gorges: smaller version of Rick Green?
Bourque: Latendresse
Prust: Scott Thornton
Diaz: Svoboda
Pacioretty: Bellows/Zednick

Finding one for Plekanec is hard!

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I like the bolded ones. At first I was unsure about the Gallagher – Lemieux comparison but after a while, I liked it!

Mine are:

Eller: Bulis
Desharnais: between Stéphane Lebeau and Saku Koivu
Galchenyuk: Kjell Dahlin
Subban : Chelios
Gorges: smaller version of Rick Green?
Bourque: Latendresse
Prust: Scott Thornton
Diaz: Svoboda
Pacioretty: Bellows/Zednick

Finding one for Plekanec is hard!
I like Y Perrault for Plekanec

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I like Y Perrault for Plekanec
Perreault was terrible defensively

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I like Y Perrault for Plekanec
The way I remember it, Perrault’s main defensive contribution was winning faceoffs; a lot of them. He was not a good two ways player... was he? I also remember him as an average/slow skater.

Sorry... I don’t like this comparison!

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The way I remember it, Perrault’s main defensive contribution was winning faceoffs; a lot of them. He was not a good two ways player... was he? I also remember him as an average/slow skater.

Sorry... I don’t like this comparison!
Perreault was nothing like Plekanec except for the fact that they were centers.

Perrault was all offense + faceoffs. Plekanec is a two way player, and so much faster than Perreault.

How about

Plekanec - Henri Richard?


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67 Max Pacioretty L --- Jaromir Jagr
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Joe Sakic
51 David Desharnais C --- Ron Francis
79 Andrei Markov D --- Doug Harvey
76 P.K. Subban D --- Bobby Orr
11 Brendan Gallagher R --- Bobby Hull
61 Raphael Diaz D --- Paul Coffey
27 Alex Galchenyuk C --- Mario Lemieux
21 Brian Gionta R --- Marcel Dionne
81 Lars Eller F --- Jacques Lemaire
17 Rene Bourque L --- Gordie Howe
74 Alexei Emelin D --- Scott Stevens
8 Brandon Prust L --- Dale Hunter
55 Francis Bouillon D --- Larry Murphy
73 Michael Ryder R --- Phil Esposito
32 Travis Moen L --- John Ferguson
26 Josh Gorges D --- Serge Savard
22 Tomas Kaberle D --- Phil Housley
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Rick Tocchet
53 Ryan White C --- Bobby Clarke
68 Yannick Weber D --- Al Iafrate
15 Petteri Nokelainen --- Bob Gainey
37 Gabriel Dumont --- Henri Richard
30 Peter Budaj G --- Dominik Hasek
31 Carey Price G --- Jacques Plante
Michel Therrien --- Scotty Bowman
Gerard Gallant --- Claude Ruel
Dr David Mulder --- Dr Frederick Banting
Geoff Molson --- John D. Rockefeller
Michel Lacroix --- Martin Luther King
Pierre Houde --- Abraham Lincoln
Marc Denis --- Karl Marx
Benoit Brunet --- Aristotle
Renaud Lavoie --- Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Pierre McGuire --- Jesus
Don Cherry --- Don Cherry
Gaston Therrien --- Einstein

I hope I'm not overrating too much.


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67 Max Pacioretty L --- Jaromir Jagr
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Joe Sakic
51 David Desharnais C --- Ron Francis
79 Andrei Markov D --- Doug Harvey
76 P.K. Subban D --- Bobby Orr
11 Brendan Gallagher R --- Bobby Hull
61 Raphael Diaz D --- Paul Coffey
27 Alex Galchenyuk C --- Mario Lemieux
21 Brian Gionta R --- Marcel Dionne
81 Lars Eller F --- Jacques Lemaire
17 Rene Bourque L --- Gordie Howe
74 Alexei Emelin D --- Scott Stevens
8 Brandon Prust L --- Dale Hunter
55 Francis Bouillon D --- Larry Murphy
73 Michael Ryder R --- Phil Esposito
32 Travis Moen L --- John Ferguson
26 Josh Gorges D --- Serge Savard
22 Tomas Kaberle D --- Phil Housley
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Rick Tocchet
53 Ryan White C --- Bobby Clarke
68 Yannick Weber D --- Al Iafrate
15 Petteri Nokelainen --- Bob Gainey
37 Gabriel Dumont --- Henri Richard
30 Peter Budaj G --- Dominik Hasek
31 Carey Price G --- Jacques Plante
Michel Therrien --- Scotty Bowman
Gerard Gallant --- Claude Ruel
Dr David Mulder --- Dr Frederick Banting
Geoff Molson --- John D. Rockefeller
Michel Lacroix --- Martin Luther King
Pierre Houde --- Abraham Lincoln
Marc Denis --- Karl Marx
Benoit Brunet --- Aristotle
Renaud Lavoie --- Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Pierre McGuire --- Jesus
Don Cherry --- Don Cherry
Gaston Therrien --- Einstein

I hope I'm not overrating too much.
Everything was fine until Gaston Therrien.

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70s flashbacks:

67 Max Pacioretty L --- Frank Mahovlich (big strides, great shot, uses a lot of ice)
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Jacques Lemaire (excellent all-purpose forward)
51 David Desharnais C ---Henri Richard (little bugger can pass)
79 Andrei Markov D ---J.C.Tremblay (no skate, no size, all brain)
76 P.K. Subban D ---Guy Lapointe (Loves to rush)
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Yvan Cournoyer (mighty mite scorer)
61 Raphael Diaz D ---Serge Savard (excellent two-way defenseman)
27 Alex Galchenyuk C ---Guy Lafleur (When will he blossom?)
21 Brian Gionta R ---Rejean Houle (may score if he can stay on his skates)
81 Lars Eller F ---Pete Mahovlich (Late bloomer, puck hogging playmaker)
17 Rene Bourque L --- Marc Tardif (does most things well offensively)
74 Alexei Emelin D ---Rick Chartraw (solid D)
8 Brandon Prust L ---Doug Risebrough (in your face warrior)
55 Francis Bouillon D ---Brian Engblom (decent 2 way)
73 Michael Ryder R ---Steve Shutt (sniper)
32 Travis Moen L ---Bob Gainey (big defensive forward)
26 Josh Gorges D ---Serge Savard (dependable shutdown anchor)
22 Tomas Kaberle D ---
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Doug Jarvis (utility forward)
53 Ryan White C ---Mario Tremblay
68 Yannick Weber D ---
30 Peter Budaj G ---
31 Carey Price G ---Ken Dryden (good but with weaknesses to work on)

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2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L --- John Leclair
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Jacques Lemaire
51 David Desharnais C --- A more imaginative Stephan Lebeau
79 Andrei Markov D --- Eric Desjardins
76 P.K. Subban D --- Poor man Chris Chelios
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Mats Naslund
61 Raphael Diaz D --- Petr Svoboda
27 Alex Galchenyuk C --- Too soon to tell, maybe Vincent Damphousse
21 Brian Gionta R --- Poor man Mats Naslund
81 Lars Eller F --- Dainius Zubrus
17 Rene Bourque L --- Yvon Lambert
74 Alexei Emelin D --- Stephan Quintal
8 Brandon Prust L --- Chris Nilan, but not as good a fighter
55 Francis Bouillon D --- Francis Bouillon
73 Michael Ryder R --- Brian Bellows
32 Travis Moen L --- Jim Roberts
26 Josh Gorges D --- Bill Nyrop
22 Tomas Kaberle D --- Tom Kurvers
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Benoit Brunet ?
53 Ryan White C --- Doug Risebrough ?
68 Yannick Weber D --- Not played enough
30 Peter Budaj G --- Any backup
31 Carey Price G --- Poor man Patrick Roy

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Quintal - Emelin is a good one to.
I was young when Quintal played and maybe my memory fails me, but I think Emelin is better than Quintal was?

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I think this is pretty accurate



2013 lineup:

67 Max Pacioretty L --- Lindros
14 Tomas Plekanec C --- Trevor Linden
51 David Desharnais C --- Poor man's saku koivu
79 Andrei Markov D --- Desjardins
76 P.K. Subban D --- Chelios
73 Brendan Gallagher R --- Martin Rucinsky
61 Raphael Diaz D --- Patrice Brisebois circa 95
27 Alex Galchenyuk C --- Richard Zednik
21 Brian Gionta R --- Sundstrom
81 Lars Eller F --- Marcel Hossa or valeri bure--- all the hype and tools but no finish (still young)
17 Rene Bourque L --- Latendresse
74 Alexei Emelin D --- O'byrne
8 Brandon Prust L --- Bigger and grittier Steve Begin (love prust)
55 Francis Bouillon D --- Francis Bouillon
73 Michael Ryder R --- Chris Higgins
32 Travis Moen L --- Turner Stevenson
26 Josh Gorges D --- Craig Rivet (lulz)
22 Tomas Kaberle D --- Stephane Quinta
20 Colby Armstrong W --- Chad Kilger
53 Ryan White C --- "insert any energy player that can drop the mitts"
68 Yannick Weber D --- Mark Streit that never could
30 Peter Budaj G --- Andy Moog 98'
31 Carey Price G --- shades of theodore circa 2001 and shades of theodore circa 2004
I assume you meant LeClair and not Lindros...

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Perreault was nothing like Plekanec except for the fact that they were centers.

Perrault was all offense + faceoffs. Plekanec is a two way player, and so much faster than Perreault.

How about

Plekanec - Henri Richard?
I agree, Plekanec vs Perrault is a rather poor comparison.

Henri Richard? Maybe. But I like the Jacques Lemaire comparison better.

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