You seem to be taking all goalies in a vacuum, when they really aren't. If Bryz was making 3m a year there would be no argument. However, he's making near 6. He is expected to bail the team out of at least a few of the defensive breakdowns at that salary.
When you're getting a little bit better production than Boosh/Leighton a few years ago at a way higher salary, it's a problem.
I am a Bryz supporter too, but there is no way to defend yesterdays game. No team will play perfect defensively, no goalie gets a pass on a goal because the team ****ed up. He has to make saves in big games vs teams behind us in the standings.
Aren't we all Bryz supporters? I don't think anyone here wants him to play poorly!
"People usually get what's coming to them, unless it has been mailed."
he did last night. several times. great save on Gaborik when it wasd 2-2 8 mins left in 2nd & another big save on Miller early in the 3rd [another undefended man]
ever think the team should be expected to limit the 'scoring chances' where an opponent is undefended ?
an unscreened shot above the circles = 1 scoring chance, just like a breakaway = 1 scoring chance .... but they are completely different degrees of difficulty.
or, how about the team be expected to score a few goals even strength ?
I'm not placing all of the blame on Bryzgalov for losing games. I think the team, while they might not have a large number of D breakdowns, have AWFUL breakdowns when they do have them. It's not just a missed assignment, it can mount up to several on one play which leads to chaos in the D-zone. Like I said, some of the chances. The better the goalie, the more he is expected to bail his team out. Bryz has on occasion, then, more often than not, he can't. He also has begun his weak goal thing again, which is frightening.
Also, regarding your scoring at ES, I think you have to almost expected 2 or less goals against the Rangers. They're a sound defensive team with the best tender in the league. Maybe they'll soften up now that Staal seems to be out for a while, but who knows?
there is no way to defend yesterdays game. No team will play perfect defensively, no goalie gets a pass on a goal because the team ****ed up.
Originally Posted by Bernie Parent 1974
team loss last night. Bryz was just like the rest of the team: not good enough. but i can't single him out.
i hope you are not classifying saying that he wasn't good enough as 'giving him a pass'. he was no better than the rest of the team. earlier in the year, he was. [and was able to overcome their deficiencies]
not as much recently & not last night. as i said.
i'm sorry: that's not "defending him" or "giving him a pass". be fair.
well, Price isn't our goalie, gives up bad goals, gets pulled ..... no different than Bryz.
Price played "really well" last year ?
Price .916 2.43
Bryz: .909 2.48
seems alot like 'the grass is greener' syndrome to me.
Price .908 2.35 on the best team in the Conference
Bryz: .903 2.68
Cmon... you can't compare Price with Bryzgalov... Not the same league to me... The body language of Price, the technique... all is better than Bryzgalov. I'm sure at the and of the season Price will be at .915+ and Bryzgalov wille be below .900 ...
Actually, yeah. I do. I've watched a few Edmonton games, and defense to that team is nothing more than a foreign, barely understood dream...the kind you forget the moment you wake up.
ha. i'm just preparing myself. i can see it happening. bryzgalov to edmonton for dubnyk and some ****heads and then they win the cup. i'm filling the bathtub and sharpening my razorblades as we speak. i somehow still twisted this into a pro bryz comment. oh well.
now, he has to be better, at least he WAS better earlier in the year. the same cannot be said for the team in general & the Team D overall at ANY time this year.
the only saving grace has been: Bryz was lights out earlier & Simmonds / Jake are carrying the O now.
This isn't true. You really think the team hasn't improved at all? Remember when they absolutely dominated the Islanders and...the Caps, was it? And then they also won a nice victory over Pittsburgh.
Luke Schenn and Grossmann have been damned, damned good defensively. Couturier hasn't been a living legend like he was last year, but he's still been solid defensively and crucial to team D.
Every stat you liked to try and point to last year for bad D indicates our D is actually at least passable. We are 8th for fewest shots against, ahead of the Rangers. They're up there for blocked shots too. The defense hasn't been nearly as horrific overall as you make it out to be, and has certainly been an improvement over last year.