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The cup

In three years Koivu, Kovy and Sammy will be either old or gone. Will the Habs challenge for the cup during that time or continue to ice a competitive team?

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The habs are winning the cup this year!!!!!!!!!!!!


GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!

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Koivu won't be "old", and will not be gone by his own choice.

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The habs are winning the cup this year!!!!!!!!!!!!


GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!

and next years and the year after......Lets build another dynasty

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We have a ton of depth and a lot of good draft picks in the last few years, so even we some of our best getting up there in age (or leaving), we will still have a good, if not great, team!

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In three years Koivu, Kovy and Sammy will be either old or gone. Will the Habs challenge for the cup during that time or continue to ice a competitive team?
I wouldn't consider 35 to be all that old. And Samsonov might even re-sign, who knows?

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I wouldn't consider 35 to be all that old. And Samsonov might even re-sign, who knows?
For some players 35 is finis. Guy, Glenn Anderson, Denis Savard were all bagged by that time. I guess what Im asking is, When and how can the Habs challenge for the cup?

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The habs are winning the cup this year!!!!!!!!!!!!


GO HABS GO!!!!!!!!!!
You may be right. Im optimistic that, if they add a star and make a dealine rent a player deal, they are close.

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Young guys maturing. Prospects coming up and taking over.

Remember, Ryder, Higgins, Plekanec, Chipchura, Kostitsyn, Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Fischer, etc. will all be older also

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In three years Koivu, Kovy and Sammy will be either old or gone. Will the Habs challenge for the cup during that time or continue to ice a competitive team?
Kovalev will be 36
Koivu will be 35
And Samsonov 30

its not that old plus there is lot of younger players in the system

Chipchura, Higgins, Plekanec, Ryder, Latendresse, Fischer, Kost, Grabovski, D'Agostini, Carle, Price...

NO WORRIES...

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You may be right. Im optimistic that, if they add a star and make a dealine rent a player deal, they are close.
It all comes down to how many questions are going to come back with favorablely answers this upcoming season. Especially in the playoffs.

Going into the 1986 and 1993 seasons, I don't think the overall assessments given to the habs by the so-called 'experts' were any better than the ones we will get this year, but things fell into place and we won.

Will things fall into place for this team this year???? Hard to say. Anybody who says they know, is a fool and/or idiot.

So, I like to stay on the optimistic side of things, and say 'The Cup is ours this year!!!!!!'

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It all comes down to how many questions are going to come back with favorablely answers this upcoming season. Especially in the playoffs.

Going into the 1986 and 1993 seasons, I don't think the overall assessments given to the habs by the so-called 'experts' were any better than the ones we will get this year, but things fell into place and we won.

Will things fall into place for this team this year???? Hard to say. Anybody who says they know, is a fool and/or idiot.

So, I like to stay on the optimistic side of things, and say 'The Cup is ours this year!!!!!!'
I agree. As far as I'm concerned, the cup is ours to lose every year.

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It all comes down to how many questions are going to come back with favorablely answers this upcoming season. Especially in the playoffs.

Going into the 1986 and 1993 seasons, I don't think the overall assessments given to the habs by the so-called 'experts' were any better than the ones we will get this year, but things fell into place and we won.

Will things fall into place for this team this year???? Hard to say. Anybody who says they know, is a fool and/or idiot.

So, I like to stay on the optimistic side of things, and say 'The Cup is ours this year!!!!!!'
If I remember correctly the Habs start in 1993 was a very poor one.

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If I remember correctly the Habs start in 1993 was a very poor one.
lol the Habs' team in 1993 was a poor one, regardless of how many "name" players were on it.

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If I remember correctly the Habs start in 1993 was a very poor one.

Actually I think you might be thinking about the way they finished the '92-'93 regular season. The habs actually started the season really strong. I think they were like 10-3-2, or something like that early on, but finished the regular season going something like 5-12..or something like that.

Going into the playoffs they certainly were not on a good role of any kind.

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well, 13 mil saved right there and it's not like all 3 are the most valuable players per salary, plus our chances for the cup is on our future's hands, on Price, Fisher, Chipchura, Kostytsin and Latendresse

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Actually I think you might be thinking about the way they finished the '92-'93 regular season. The habs actually started the season really strong. I think they were like 10-3-2, or something like that early on, but finished the regular season going something like 5-12..or something like that.

Going into the playoffs they certainly were not on a good role of any kind.
Did the Habs start quickly in the 1992-1993 season?

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In three years Koivu, Kovy and Sammy will be either old or gone. Will the Habs challenge for the cup during that time or continue to ice a competitive team?
It's not either or. We continue to try to ice a competitive team. Maybe while doing so all the elements magically gel together at just the right time and we win the Cup. Maybe not. It's basically all that any team can do these days, short of finishing last 5 years in a row and drafting Whitney, Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Esposito. And I don't think we could handle doing that.

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Do y'all have that much confidence in Huet? I seriously doubt he's anywhere near as good at St. Patty of the Roy. Every team that wins the Cup outside of when Osgood backstopped the Wings to the Cup, had a great goalie who had an outstanding year. St. Patty could've won the Cup with an AHL team and one hot scorer.

For example, Mannie Fernandez is good, but with the Wild's stifling defense and the hockey gods aligning behind us, we could pull it off. It's a long shot, but ...

I would think that the Habs are in the same boat as the Wild.

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It's not either or. We continue to try to ice a competitive team. Maybe while doing so all the elements magically gel together at just the right time and we win the Cup. Maybe not. It's basically all that any team can do these days, short of finishing last 5 years in a row and drafting Whitney, Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Esposito. And I don't think we could handle doing that.
Haha, if Malkin come to pittsburgh they wont finish last in the league, I see them easily 20-22th.

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It's not either or. We continue to try to ice a competitive team. Maybe while doing so all the elements magically gel together at just the right time and we win the Cup. Maybe not. It's basically all that any team can do these days, short of finishing last 5 years in a row and drafting Whitney, Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Esposito. And I don't think we could handle doing that.
Challenge isnt either or. We do have greater parity now so almost any team has a chance.

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Did the Habs start quickly in the 1992-1993 season?

Found the results of their season......


http://www.shrpsports.com/nhl/teamseas.php

they actually started the year 12-3-2.

Cool website!!!!

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Found the results of their season......


http://www.shrpsports.com/nhl/teamseas.php

they actually started the year 12-3-2.

Cool website!!!!
I was thinking of the cup final season 1988-1989 when they did well but started out slow.

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As far as I'm concerned, the cup is ours to lose every year.
Well then, as far as the last thirteen years goes, congratulations on a job well done.

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