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03-06-2013, 08:20 PM
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It's hard to tell. Unless he's got a few inches and 30 lbs on you he doesn't throw.
I was curious about this so I did a bit of research on hockeyfights.com....

Beach is listed at 6'3" 190 lbs

2012-2013
  • Kevin Connauton 6'1" 196 lbs
  • Zack Kassian 6'3" 205 lbs
  • Landon Ferraro 6'0" 170 lbs
  • Michael Latta 5'11" 187 lbs
  • Riley Sheahan 6'2" 202 lbs

2011-2012
  • Greg Nemisz 6'2" 192 lbs
  • Stehan Della Rovere 5'11" 200 lbs

2010-2011
  • Spencer Machacek 6'1" 172 lbs
  • Dave Scatchard 6'2" 220 lbs
  • Mark Cundari 5'9" 179 lbs
  • Chris Minard 6'1" 180 lbs
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  • Dean Arsene 6'2" 200 lbs
  • Greg Stewart 6'2" 185 lbs
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  • Mike Brennan 6'0" 190 lbs
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03-06-2013, 08:43 PM
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Lol at the internet toughness of trying to "tell me something"

Bottom line is this your 5 7 guy as talented as he is wouldnt make the la kings top 6 and him beating out stoll who went 14 and 2 in the faceoff circle last night would be slim to none. Trading nolan and greene would take away from team chemistry. There is absolutly no reason to make this trade only to make more trades later. I dont understand why this isnt make sence to some montreal fans. Also again Greene is not a bottom pairing defenseman in most of the league. It seems some of you fans have a east coast bias towards a stanley cup winning team by undervalueating there peices. Remember montreal this is a stanley cup winning lineup not some lottery team. Every piece in la has value.
lol it's nice that you find it funny but your not gonna convince me that your team management doesn't believe that our #1c have more value than your 4th liners.

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He is not a number 1 center sorry he will be a decent number 2 but your really over selling the kid Alex Galchenyuk is going to be your number one center in long run imo but whatever its your team and who am i to comment on it.
Don't worry i'm aware of that, but right now DD is our #1 c

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03-06-2013, 08:49 PM
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lol it's nice that you find it funny but your not gonna convince me that your team management doesn't believe that our #1c have more value than your 4th liners.
i did find it funny that your trying to convince me of something that u have no chance of doing, Despite your saying hes a number 1 center doesnt make it so. Yes hes talented but no hes not a number one center sorry not going to convince me of that after one 60 piont year Also now ur fellow fans are saying he plays wing *(which is possibly ) which is he a center or a wing If hes a number one center as u saying he shouldnt be playing wing also Maybe u need to confer with people and come back with one answer so i can contine to discuss this.

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03-06-2013, 08:50 PM
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Should he be on the kings he wouldnt be a number one nothing our whole top two lines are more talented then him thanks

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03-06-2013, 09:00 PM
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i did find it funny that your trying to convince me of something that u have no chance of doing, Despite your saying hes a number 1 center doesnt make it so. Yes hes talented but no hes not a number one center sorry not going to convince me of that after one 60 piont year Also now ur fellow fans are saying he plays wing *(which is possibly ) which is he a center or a wing If hes a number one center as u saying he shouldnt be playing wing also Maybe u need to confer with people and come back with one answer so i can contine to discuss this.
he didn't play wings for 2 years, he got his chance the last season but unfortunately our defense was incredibly bad the last season, 3 rookies, markov injuried the whole year, add kaberle and campoli to that, it was ridiculous.

Now Emelin and Diaz are much better Markov is healthy and Desharnais just continue where he left the last season which was his first season.

The only arguement you have is that dd is 5 7 you constantly say that, you knew there's a lot of small players who got a great career.

And yes maybe you won the cup with the players that you have in your lineup but it doesnt mean that they are all untouchable ... comon when you can get a player of the caliber of dd for a 4th liner you better do it.

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03-06-2013, 09:15 PM
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he didn't play wings for 2 years, he got his chance the last season but unfortunately our defense was incredibly bad the last season, 3 rookies, markov injuried the whole year, add kaberle and campoli to that, it was ridiculous.

Now Emelin and Diaz are much better Markov is healthy and Desharnais just continue where he left the last season which was his first season.

The only arguement you have is that dd is 5 7 you constantly say that, you knew there's a lot of small players who got a great career.

And yes maybe you won the cup with the players that you have in your lineup but it doesnt mean that they are all untouchable ... comon when you can get a player of the caliber of dd for a 4th liner you better do it.
Ive not once saying hes not going to have a good carrer or not all i ve been saying is he wouldnt have one with the kings. The smallest forward is mike richards at 5 11 who plays a phyical game. Our coach darrel sutter loves to play a big phyical defense first game, Which your 5 7 center doesnt play. As talented as he is he wouldnt replace anyone on our top 9 which he would have to play to have a decent carrer. We already have a simlar player in the ahl Brandon Kozun hes 5 8. He was scoring at a good pace this year and last year but got passed over for the bigger players king and nolan when we needed people from the ahl. Darryl will alway play size over smaller talented player its just a fact.

lol yes Nolan is available to be traded to me but if u asked alot of the kings faithful you would find out most love nolan and consider him the best 4th liner in the game. I dont like him as much as my fellow king fans but agree he does play well there. I take exception to people calling greene nothing but a bottom pairing defenseman as well If he was healthy ( which hes still a couple of weeks away) and he was available on his own, He would fetch a 1st round pick without much thought by a team looking to improve there pk and overall defense. Hes a defeneseman all team would be looking for.Last year the kings defense was the 2nd best in the league and matt greene was a huge part of it wheather u want to realize it or not he would be a 4th defenseman on alot of teams Oh not that i like it but nolan does get alot of 3rd line games and shifts so hes not really a true 4th liner.

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03-06-2013, 09:21 PM
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Let make it clear im objecting to tradeing greene more then im am nolan according to most king fans i have hate for him lmao

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03-06-2013, 09:51 PM
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well I understand that this trade doesnt make sens for both team but in other word i'm just saying that the habs should be able to get a better return for DD and if they can't they should just keep him because he is a big part of our succes right now.

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well maybe you can maybe you cant but one thing is clear u wouldnt even get this from the kings Matt greene is close to untouchable to many untangables to let him go for this type of package.

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It's hard to tell. Unless he's got a few inches and 30 lbs on you he doesn't throw.
Oh alright then, I guess we'll look elsewhere. Thanks for the answers.

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Where are the kings in the standing and where are the habs, the habs are in first place with Dd as their best foward. Richard could play winger.
4th.. with game in hand against everybody in Conference..

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enough said, there will always have some DD's detractors he could score 100 pts in one season it is not gonna change anything.

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I like it, good job OP.

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Matt Greene isn't going anywhere.


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I've seen DD play and to be honest he has more talent that Nolan and Green. But we are not going to go in that direction. We are the biggest team in the NHL, we play big and phyical, that's our identity. If we trade Greene, Nolan it would be for Bourque,Moen, Prust type of players. So even though on paper it looks good, that package will not fit our team identity.

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If the habs want to make the playoff and have a chance to stay at the top they can't consider trading DD, especialy not for that cheap !!!

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If the habs want to make the playoff and have a chance to stay at the top they can't consider trading DD, especialy not for that cheap !!!
yeah top defensive defenseman are cheap and easy to aquire

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yeah top defensive defenseman are cheap and easy to aquire
Extremely cheap compare to what DD can bring on the ice.

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Greene if he was available is worth a 1st + easy Not sure if u call that cheap

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i did find it funny that your trying to convince me of something that u have no chance of doing, Despite your saying hes a number 1 center doesnt make it so. Yes hes talented but no hes not a number one center sorry not going to convince me of that after one 60 piont year Also now ur fellow fans are saying he plays wing *(which is possibly ) which is he a center or a wing If hes a number one center as u saying he shouldnt be playing wing also Maybe u need to confer with people and come back with one answer so i can contine to discuss this.
Dude, learn to use punctuation please.

Also, I don't remember the last time Desharnais played a position other than center. You probably misunderstood some comment.

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Isn't he a RFA? So I guess your number 1 center will want 3-4 million next year??? Without Cole who potted 35 goals last year, I see him in the 50 point range. Not much production from a 1C guy who can't even get on half the rides at La Ronde.

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Dude, learn to use punctuation please.

Also, I don't remember the last time Desharnais played a position other than center. You probably misunderstood some comment.
first off if u dont like the way i type dont read it. Next no i didnt misread anything the post that im refering to was deleted It said things that needed to be deleted. but it was clearly said he plays wing and refered to my knowledge of hockey, It was made by a montreal fan

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I think the easiest way to sum is this thread is that the Kings likely won't trade Nolan and Greene for any price and even though Mtl is offering good players here, they aren't what LA is looking for an (even more important) don't equal what LA fans think Greene and Nolan bring to the team


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Greene if he was available is worth a 1st + easy Not sure if u call that cheap
Depending on if its an early or late 1st Desharnais worth more than green, I mean Dd play as our first line center, he is doing good and the habs are in first position, it should mean something.

For a guy who played his first full season the last year, he is incredebly good and continue to improve his play.

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