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He's gotta go for whatever we can get for him.

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Buyout cap hit may be prohibitive (if I'm doing this right):

http://www.capgeek.com/buyout-calcul...06&buyout_d=15

Thus, amnesty.

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Heh, and if I'm Danny I just say send my checks to tahiti, I'll take a compliance buyout in the summer.

We have very little leverage here.
Then he is embarrassed, sits out rest of year, and team is done with him for any future jobs with the team.

Or, go to a team like Boston for 3 months and win a cup, get bought out in summer and do whatever he likes ? Sign back in Philly, retire, work for FLyers, or any damn thing he wants.

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Ducks fan here.

We were actually talking about Briere on our own boards, if come playoff time and Philly is out of it while Ducks are in, should we try to get Briere. I imagine that massive cap hit is chaffing your pants, while we like the look of that small salary. Although seeing all the comments about his defensive game has made me a bit less interested, what do you think it would take from the Ducks to get him? I'd like to believe that he could be had for cheap, due to that cap hit.

What kind of return are you guys expecting the team to get?

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Ducks fan here.

We were actually talking about Briere on our own boards, if come playoff time and Philly is out of it while Ducks are in, should we try to get Briere. I imagine that massive cap hit is chaffing your pants, while we like the look of that small salary. Although seeing all the comments about his defensive game has made me a bit less interested, what do you think it would take from the Ducks to get him? I'd like to believe that he could be had for cheap, due to that cap hit.

What kind of return are you guys expecting the team to get?
I would take your 1st rounder for Briere, assuming he waives to go to Anaheim.

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03-07-2013, 02:40 PM
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we are all hating briere now, but come playoff time we will all be praising him again. He is unbelievable come playoff time and when he gets hot he can single handedly carry a line .

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Ducks fan here.

We were actually talking about Briere on our own boards, if come playoff time and Philly is out of it while Ducks are in, should we try to get Briere. I imagine that massive cap hit is chaffing your pants, while we like the look of that small salary. Although seeing all the comments about his defensive game has made me a bit less interested, what do you think it would take from the Ducks to get him? I'd like to believe that he could be had for cheap, due to that cap hit.

What kind of return are you guys expecting the team to get?
You have a couple of very nice defensive prospects I would like to steal away. Also your forward prospects are pretty good too. Pretty nice pipeline of prospects you have.

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we are all hating briere now, but come playoff time we will all be praising him again. He is unbelievable come playoff time and when he gets hot he can single handedly carry a line .
We have to make the playoffs first. In the past we had the offensive depth to make up for Briere's shortcomings in the regular season. I think that's why most here are complaining about him.

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If from the Ducks... I would say a 1st. I could also suggest Briere and Gus for Luca Sbisa. Doing that might also might make Coburn expendable. Coburn for Gormley and a 2nd?

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Then he is embarrassed, sits out rest of year, and team is done with him for any future jobs with the team.

Or, go to a team like Boston for 3 months and win a cup, get bought out in summer and do whatever he likes ? Sign back in Philly, retire, work for FLyers, or any damn thing he wants.
You are assuming boston would buy him out. If we waives NMC and Boston chooses not
to honor that NMC going forward then he gets traded to NYI who loves 2 yrs high cap hit low salary.

All the risk in this discussion is on briere...why would he want that...

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You are assuming boston would buy him out. If we waives NMC and Boston chooses not
to honor that NMC going forward then he gets traded to NYI who loves 2 yrs high cap hit low salary.

All the risk in this discussion is on briere...why would he want that...
Win a cup, help out the team that gave him 40 million over 6 years.

Everyone keeps saying wait for playoff Danny, well we need playoff Danyy now just to make the playoffs. We cant afford his piss poor effort as it is a huge detriment to the team.

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we are all hating briere now, but come playoff time we will all be praising him again. He is unbelievable come playoff time and when he gets hot he can single handedly carry a line .
If this was 3 years from now, maybe.

I myself want to trade briere because he is valuable now and we are not winning the cup (realistically) this season so why not sell in a sellers market to improve the future squad?

I know he will score in the POs...

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The team that should trade for Briere is PIttsburgh. His clutch play and tenacity in the playoffs is exactly what that teams need. Of course it would be a weird transisition for both parties and im sure getting those two teams on the phone would be difficult but they are the team with the best defensive prospects in the game.

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Win a cup, help out the team that gave him 40 million over 6 years.

Everyone keeps saying wait for playoff Danny, well we need playoff Danyy now just to make the playoffs. We cant afford his piss poor effort as it is a huge detriment to the team.
Indeed. Averaging .7 points per game so we can see him average 1 point per game in the playoffs is useless if the team doesn't make the playoffs.

This is about the time a regular season playoff push gets under way. Briere (and especially Coburn, with Grossmann gimped) need to snap into playoff mode if they want to put off golfing.

Edit: There's also a late trade deadline this year. I think it's April 3, which is 3 weeks before the end of the season. We might have a pretty good idea about who's going to be in the playoffs by then.

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Win a cup, help out the team that gave him 40 million over 6 years.

Everyone keeps saying wait for playoff Danny, well we need playoff Danyy now just to make the playoffs. We cant afford his piss poor effort as it is a huge detriment to the team.
There is no lock anywhere he goes to win the cup.

And, no...he doesn't owe us any favors. This is business. It's totally hypocritical for us to play that card...

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There is no lock anywhere he goes to win the cup.

And, no...he doesn't owe us any favors. This is business. It's totally hypocritical for us to play that card...
If he does the Flyers this favor, the Flyers can do him a favor and bring him back post retirement. It's a smart business decision for him if he wants to stay in the area long term and continue to work in hockey. I think the Flyers can make a compelling argument for him to waive the NMC.

I agree that moving Briere is about the future not the present. This team in all honesty is probably not cup ready for another two years or until B.Schenn and Couturier become consistent NHL producers. IMO any move the Flyers make should be about 2015, or the end of next year at the earliest.

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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.

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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.
Jaw dropping. I was actually about to PM you to ask if you've heard anything in the last few days.

That is a lot to ask for from a organization in terms of babysitting -- for this year and 2 years hence.

So, basically a 2nd, a goaltender prospect (who is good), Ference, Krug (small PMD prospect).

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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.
Interesting. Other than Ference I'm not familar with any of those players. Do you or any other poster here know anything about them?


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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.
Im not doubting you , just curious how you know this?

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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.
Interesting, but I don't think the Flyers can take back that many contracts, can they? If that pick is a 2nd, I would probably do this.

Thanks for sharing BCF16!

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Interesting. Other than Ference I'm not familar with any of those players. Do you or any other poster here know anything about them?
Svedberg is a legitimate goaltending prospect. He was a bit of a late bloomer in Europe, but he starred in the Swedish Elite League the past three seasons. Last season, he was a championship winning goaltender and his numbers in the playoffs were fantastic (1.70 GAA and .947 Sv Pct). He's an athletic goaltender that relies on reflexes more than positioning, but that's seemed to have changed this year since coming to the AHL. Yes, he still uses his reflexes, but he's gotten significantly better at his positioning.

As for Torey Krug, he is a smaller puck moving defenseman. In fairness though, he's deceptively fast and he's very good at being in the right place, right time. He's also got the art of sliding off a hit down pat and he never puts himself in situations that he'll get creamed. He's very aware of his on ice positioning.

Now, take this for what it is, but the Flyers are asking for Ryan Spooner instead of Krug. The story that I heard is that if the Bruins deal goes down, there's another deal in place in which another center is being moved, hence the reason why Spooner is being asked for. I don't have full details yet, but I was informed that Couturier, Schenn and Giroux are not the centers being moved, so I'm thinking it's probably Laughton.

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Ex-wife on the road with you? Better lawyer, bro. Was DrinkFightFlyers representing you?

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This is hearsay, but the Bruins have apparently put an offer on the table for Briere. From what I was told, the offer was Svedberg, Krug, Ference (for salary purposes) and a draft pick (not a first though) for Briere. Briere has been asked to waive his NMC/NTC, but he's asking for a lot to waive. In particular, he's asking for housing and travel arrangements for his ex-wife to see and spend time with the kids and he's asking that whatever team he moves to, they pay for a tutor to go on the road with him and his kids so that they aren't behind in school AND he's asking that the team pay for his ex-wife to go on the road with them so she can spend time with the kids. Could make for interesting discussions.
Wouldn't that put the Flyers over the contracts limit?

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Svedberg is a legitimate goaltending prospect. He was a bit of a late bloomer in Europe, but he starred in the Swedish Elite League the past three seasons. Last season, he was a championship winning goaltender and his numbers in the playoffs were fantastic (1.70 GAA and .947 Sv Pct). He's an athletic goaltender that relies on reflexes more than positioning, but that's seemed to have changed this year since coming to the AHL. Yes, he still uses his reflexes, but he's gotten significantly better at his positioning.

As for Torey Krug, he is a smaller puck moving defenseman. In fairness though, he's deceptively fast and he's very good at being in the right place, right time. He's also got the art of sliding off a hit down pat and he never puts himself in situations that he'll get creamed. He's very aware of his on ice positioning.

Now, take this for what it is, but the Flyers are asking for Ryan Spooner instead of Krug. The story that I heard is that if the Bruins deal goes down, there's another deal in place in which another center is being moved, hence the reason why Spooner is being asked for. I don't have full details yet, but I was informed that Couturier, Schenn and Giroux are not the centers being moved, so I'm thinking it's probably Laughton.
Thanks for the insight. I really don't want to move Laughton. I think he's going to be a good one here.

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