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03-07-2013, 05:38 PM
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Pretty sure BobbyClarkeFan16 is totally wrong about this trade proposal, or his "source" is totally wrong, whichever way you want to take it.

Paying for Briere's kids/wife to constantly be on the road with him would absolutely be in violation of the NHL CBA and there's no work-around for it. Unless Briere is paying out of his pocket (which would require no negotiation with the Bruins), it's a clear-cut CBA violation as it falls under impermissible player benefits.

Now maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions, but I would assume the Bruins GM and Briere's agent are both well informed on the CBA terms, so if BCF16's "source" really had a pulse on things, I wouldn't expect him to say something silly like "Briere wants them to cover travel expenses". Suffice it to say that I will be shocked if this trade or a trade of Laughton materializes before the deadline.

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Pretty sure BobbyClarkeFan16 is totally wrong about this trade proposal, or his "source" is totally wrong, whichever way you want to take it.

Paying for Briere's kids/wife to constantly be on the road with him would absolutely be in violation of the NHL CBA and there's no work-around for it. Unless Briere is paying out of his pocket (which would require no negotiation with the Bruins), it's a clear-cut CBA violation as it falls under impermissible player benefits.

Now maybe I'm just jumping to conclusions, but I would assume the Bruins GM and Briere's agent are both well informed on the CBA terms, so if BCF16's "source" really had a pulse on things, I wouldn't expect him to say something silly like "Briere wants them to cover travel expenses". Suffice it to say that I will be shocked if this trade or a trade of Laughton materializes before the deadline.
Actually, what Briere is asking for falls under Section 26. Circumvention Description - 1. Things Of Value. Briere can argue that having his kids is a benefit for the player. Now, before anything can be done, the league needs to be petitioned for that. Sheldon Souray went through something similar with his ex-wife Angelica Bridges and that the league also stepped in and allowed his team at the time (Edmonton) to help out with his situation with his wife.

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03-07-2013, 06:27 PM
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^^^^ I don't care who you are or how you know. I enjoy your "speculation or w/e it is, and trust you more than eklund So keep it up!

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Actually, what Briere is asking for falls under Section 26. Circumvention Description - 1. Things Of Value. Briere can argue that having his kids is a benefit for the player. Now, before anything can be done, the league needs to be petitioned for that. Sheldon Souray went through something similar with his ex-wife Angelica Bridges and that the league also stepped in and allowed his team at the time (Edmonton) to help out with his situation with his wife.
Actually it falls under Section 50, things of de minimis value to the player. That article allows for teams to pay for things like father-son road trips, parental travel to first games, etc. The league does not however permit the team to pay for kids and ex (or current) wives to travel with the team to several games. That's an unreasonable added cost. It's an impermissible benefit. Especially when Briere went to play in Germany for 4-5 months with no assistance towards his children.

I'm not familiar with the Souray situation or what the league allegedly allowed in that situation. I searched for information on it, but came up with nothing. Perhaps you could post a link? I've never heard of a player's family following him on the road continuously, and certainly not with an ex-wife in tow.

And unless you wish to explain (either here or via PM) why your source is credible / where you're getting this info, I'll choose not to believe your rumors. Speculation is fun, but I think that's what this really is, speculation as opposed to having a legitimate source with knowledge of the situation. You're a nice guy and you're definitely knowledgeable about prospects but you've posted some things that are pretty far out there over the years (Wayne Simmonds will score 40 goals is one of the things I remember off hand) and as far as I can tell, you've never been correct on a rumor. It's nothing personal, I just don't believe "established" sources like Eklund so I'm darn sure not going to believe a random guy on a message board unless I've got reason to.

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Please, i'm going insane here. Somebody please offer a logical explanation for Briere's continued ice time. He's offering NOTHING. Rinaldo has had a far better game tonight and has had 6 minutes.

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Is there any team that would jump on Coburn + Briere?

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Is there any team that would jump on Coburn + Briere?
that's a lot of cash going on way...

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that's a lot of cash going on way...
You make it sound like we won't take any back. Also, a lot of teams have a lot of cap room.

Coburn + Briere to the Ducks for Sbisa, 1st and a 3rd.

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that's a lot of cash going on way...
A lot of cap hit but not anywhere near as much cash. That could be attractive.

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Actually it falls under Section 50, things of de minimis value to the player. That article allows for teams to pay for things like father-son road trips, parental travel to first games, etc. The league does not however permit the team to pay for kids and ex (or current) wives to travel with the team to several games. That's an unreasonable added cost. It's an impermissible benefit. Especially when Briere went to play in Germany for 4-5 months with no assistance towards his children.

I'm not familiar with the Souray situation or what the league allegedly allowed in that situation. I searched for information on it, but came up with nothing. Perhaps you could post a link? I've never heard of a player's family following him on the road continuously, and certainly not with an ex-wife in tow.

And unless you wish to explain (either here or via PM) why your source is credible / where you're getting this info, I'll choose not to believe your rumors. Speculation is fun, but I think that's what this really is, speculation as opposed to having a legitimate source with knowledge of the situation. You're a nice guy and you're definitely knowledgeable about prospects but you've posted some things that are pretty far out there over the years (Wayne Simmonds will score 40 goals is one of the things I remember off hand) and as far as I can tell, you've never been correct on a rumor. It's nothing personal, I just don't believe "established" sources like Eklund so I'm darn sure not going to believe a random guy on a message board unless I've got reason to.
I can't speak about BC16's credibility, but I will add the same criticisms were said about Renegade and Dobberhockey.

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Anyone want to make a Briere + Coburn trade thread in the trade area?

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Anyone want to make a Briere + Coburn trade thread in the trade area?
There was one either yesterday or the day before.

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Actually it falls under Section 50, things of de minimis value to the player. That article allows for teams to pay for things like father-son road trips, parental travel to first games, etc. The league does not however permit the team to pay for kids and ex (or current) wives to travel with the team to several games. That's an unreasonable added cost. It's an impermissible benefit. Especially when Briere went to play in Germany for 4-5 months with no assistance towards his children.

I'm not familiar with the Souray situation or what the league allegedly allowed in that situation. I searched for information on it, but came up with nothing. Perhaps you could post a link? I've never heard of a player's family following him on the road continuously, and certainly not with an ex-wife in tow.

And unless you wish to explain (either here or via PM) why your source is credible / where you're getting this info, I'll choose not to believe your rumors. Speculation is fun, but I think that's what this really is, speculation as opposed to having a legitimate source with knowledge of the situation. You're a nice guy and you're definitely knowledgeable about prospects but you've posted some things that are pretty far out there over the years (Wayne Simmonds will score 40 goals is one of the things I remember off hand) and as far as I can tell, you've never been correct on a rumor. It's nothing personal, I just don't believe "established" sources like Eklund so I'm darn sure not going to believe a random guy on a message board unless I've got reason to.
He is legit and I believe what he is saying.

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I know Coburn's been playing like ****. I don't know if I would want to trade him so easily like some of you's want to.

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I know Coburn's been playing like ****. I don't know if I would want to trade him so easily like some of you's want to.
The only reason I wouldnt trade him is because we have no one that can fill his spot.

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He was -3 on the night and despite being on the ice for nearly a third of the game, he was only on for 2 of our 32 shots. I actually want to extrapolate that stat, nail it home further.

S/60 Briere on ice: 6.8
S/60 Briere off ice: 42.4

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He was -3 on the night and despite being on the ice for nearly a third of the game, he was only on for 2 of our 32 shots. I actually want to extrapolate that stat, nail it home further.

S/60 Briere on ice: 6.8
S/60 Briere off ice: 42.4
I'm no where near a fan of Briere, but that's not quite fair to do.

EDIT: I mean, yes, that spread is awful, but just about every forward is going to have a pretty negative spread.


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I'm no where near a fan of Briere, but that's not quite fair to do.
...why not?

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I'm no where near a fan of Briere, but that's not quite fair to do.

EDIT: I mean, yes, that spread is awful, but just about every forward is going to have a pretty negative spread.
That's not points, or plus minus. That's Flyer shots. He played 17.5 of the 60 minutes and we had 2 shots. In the other 42.5 minutes we had 30.

Bottom line, when he's on the ice we concede a lot and don't even have shots, let alone score. He's an absolute liability who needs to be in the press box.

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That's not points, or plus minus. That's Flyer shots. He played 17.5 of the 60 minutes and we had 2 shots. In the other 42.5 minutes we had 30.

Bottom line, when he's on the ice we concede a lot and don't even have shots, let alone score. He's an absolute liability who needs to be in the press box.
I'm not quite sure where you're getting that stat. Briere himself had 2 shots. Did no one else shoot when he was on the ice?

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I'm not quite sure where you're getting that stat. Briere himself had 2 shots. Did no one else shoot when he was on the ice?
Probably not considering his puck possession and passing skills stink

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I would trade Briere for a bag of pucks right now. Getting any better than that is a plus at this point.

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Early in the season there was a missed rebound to the left of the net that Old Briere would have been in place for and put home. Tonight, Briere chest sniped Vokoun when he had a horde of bodies to bounce the puck off of. Old Briere used to score those creative goals.

I don't like New Briere.

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