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03-08-2013, 08:33 AM
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Couturier plays too scared to fail in my opinion. Almost like JVR was doing, he doesn't think he's good enough to do things in the NHL that he could in juniors. Offensively, he doesn't even bother going to the net.
He needs a serious confidence booster right now, and not being put up against Malkin when he was out on the ice must of been a serious kick in the pants.

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03-08-2013, 09:41 AM
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I am one of the most impatient people around, but in this case we need to be patient! We may need to wait 3-4 years until we really see what he's capable of. Look at Voracek. He's been in the nhl for 5 yrs and has only just begun. We have something special in Couturier and need to get off his back!
This.

And that's why I don't like people who pencil him in as the #2C for next season, or even publicly call him a future #1C.

Fans can dream but a prospect needs to earn his roster spot and playing time. People are always criticizing this organiztation for their lack of patience but in facts it's the fanbase that builds those unrealistic expectations.

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03-08-2013, 09:57 AM
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Most players, including superstar type players, don't really produce consistently until they're at least 22 or 23. Historically that's when players enter their offensive prime. Couturier is at least 2 years from that. You have to be patient. He just needs to grow into his body, get stronger, get more experience, and hopefully improve his skating a bit.

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03-08-2013, 10:26 AM
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Most players, including superstar type players, don't really produce consistently until they're at least 22 or 23. Historically that's when players enter their offensive prime. Couturier is at least 2 years from that. You have to be patient. He just needs to grow into his body, get stronger, get more experience, and hopefully improve his skating a bit.
I get that but I just don't see the offensive potential that some people do. I think you could see it last year with Schenn and you could definitely see it with JVR.

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03-08-2013, 11:32 AM
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According to tweets, during todays practice Couts is playing on the fourth line with Zac and Talbot.

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03-08-2013, 11:59 AM
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According to tweets, during todays practice Couts is playing on the fourth line with Zac and Talbot.
Zac, Max, and Sean...that is quite a bit of energy. I can see it working.

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03-08-2013, 12:02 PM
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IM actually not opposed to dropping coots down a line. Our 3rd line is a scoring line and he has not been scoring. Simple as that. Maybe a reduction in responsibility will help him out some.

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03-08-2013, 12:45 PM
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I get that but I just don't see the offensive potential that some people do. I think you could see it last year with Schenn and you could definitely see it with JVR.
We saw it last year with his shot, and with his play against the Pens. He has the pedigree coming out of juniors and he was nearly a PPG player in the AHL this year. He'll get there if he can become a better skater.

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03-08-2013, 12:51 PM
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Couturier's scoring game is around the crease, a dirty goal type player, not a JVR or Carter wrist shot kind of player. Couturier needs to add some weight to his frame to create space for himself, and the goals will come.

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03-08-2013, 01:17 PM
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IM actually not opposed to dropping coots down a line. Our 3rd line is a scoring line and he has not been scoring. Simple as that. Maybe a reduction in responsibility will help him out some.
If our third line is a scoring line, then why the hell is Ruslan Fedotenko centering it?

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03-08-2013, 02:45 PM
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If our third line is a scoring line, then why the hell is Ruslan Fedotenko centering it?
I think it's actually Matt Read who was centering the line during practice. But Rusty is on his wing..sooo..lack of options?

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The Flyers won 4 out of 6 when he played with Talbot and Rinaldo, so I can see why they're going there. He's not producing offense, so he's being put in a spot where he isn't.

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He's fine. His linemates have sucked most of the season and yes, he's struggling offensively. It's the sophmore slump that happens to basically everyone
Just out of curiosity, why is it that you feel this way about Couturier but not MPS (as we discussed in a different thread). You seemed pretty convinced that MPS does not have a high ceiling and that he is a bust, despite the fact that his rookie season he looked promising. Yet Couturier, who put up fewer points than MPS you are confident will get out of this sophomore slump. Are the 39 more games that MPS played really that telling against him? I'm not saying that Couturier won't rebound next year, I am just curious why Couturier gets the benefit of the sophomore slump but MPS does not.

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03-08-2013, 03:09 PM
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People need to let young players grow around here. They're gonna go through slumps and growing pains. I'm really not worried about him I think he'll find his offensive game. Getting Gagne has helped give him some offensive help and Read coming back gives him another good linemate on his line from Talbot/Rinaldo a couple weeks ago.


IMO Lavy is dumbass if he moved him back to the 4th. He finally has two offensively competent linemates with Gagne/Read coming back and they put him back with Talbot/Rinaldo.

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03-09-2013, 12:30 PM
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Yeah, seriously. There's a reason the NHL isn't filled with 20 year old players tearing **** up. I know some people are going to struggle mightily with the patience required, but you've gotta give the kid until he's 22-24 to really get his game together.

That he stuck in the league at 19 years old is impressive. Just wait until he matures.

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03-09-2013, 12:43 PM
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Couturier's play should probably be one of the last things we are worrying about. He isn't the first guy to follow up a stellar rookie season with a lackluster sophomore campaign.

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03-09-2013, 01:20 PM
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Couturier's play should probably be one of the last things we are worrying about. He isn't the first guy to follow up a stellar rookie season with a lackluster sophomore campaign.
27 points in 77 games is stellar...?

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03-09-2013, 01:25 PM
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27 points in 77 games is stellar...?
Shuting down some of the top players in the league at 19 is

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27 points in 77 games is stellar...?
With offensive superstars Maxime Talbot and Zac Rinaldo as linemates on the fourth line, zero powerplay time, and playing a shutdown role effectively?

Yes, yes it is

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03-09-2013, 01:58 PM
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Say whatever you want but Couturier has been awful today.

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03-09-2013, 01:59 PM
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Keep him on the fourth line for now. I don't mind Read at center on the 3rd. Talbot has looked like an AHL player of late as well though.

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I am just a little worried that having him in a defensive role for too long will affect his long term offensive ability. I know last year, we were all gaga over him. Now this year, not so much. And watching a player like Huberdeau blossom...we want that for Couts. If we continue losing, do you put him in the AHL to play 1st line minutes to gain confidence? Or move him to line #2 with Simmonds and Schenn?

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Seriously I love the flyers but lol @ anyone who continues to overrate Couturier over and over I can't stand half our fanbase. Ship him out for the right piece, he's the odd man out and it's clear.

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I am just a little worried that having him in a defensive role for too long will affect his long term offensive ability. I know last year, we were all gaga over him. Now this year, not so much. And watching a player like Huberdeau blossom...we want that for Couts. If we continue losing, do you put him in the AHL to play 1st line minutes to gain confidence? Or move him to line #2 with Simmonds and Schenn?
Why would you put him on the #2 line? We did that early this year and got absolutely no production out of him, as he's not that offensively skilled. He's not a second line player he's a 3rd line center... I die laughing at the guys on our board that say he's gonna be a 65-70 point shutdown center... Lol!!! He will never be a Patrice Bergeron type guy.. He doesn't have that much talent... Stop using juniors to elevate his worth, plenty of guys shredded the AHL and juniors and amounted to nothing in the NHL... Here comes the "he's only 20". Watch him play, evaluate his hockey sense and skill set and come back to me and tell me he's gonna be a 65-70 point 2 way center haha! Ya right buddy.

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Seriously I love the flyers but lol @ anyone who continues to overrate Couturier over and over I can't stand half our fanbase. Ship him out for the right piece, he's the odd man out and it's clear.
I lol at the fans like you who demand young players to be traded only to ***** and cry about it once they start to flourish and find success with other teams.

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