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03-08-2013, 10:29 AM
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I'm not telling him to mortgage the future, it must be pretty telling to fans that Calgary was willing to offer sheet Ryan O'reilly but not a player like P.K Subban. Calgary realizes they will need C's at some point to ever compete, Maata is a good prospect but Calgary will need and want C's long before targetting more D prospects in trades.
Then we are a poor match for you in a deal so there is no reason for Calgary fans to come on and try to get a boatload out of Pittsburgh for Iggy. We don't have centers to give and we aren't giving Sutter. We have D prospects everyone would love to get their hands on - except Toronto, Minnesota and now Calgary. Seems to me you could use some D prospects too. It's not like your system is loaded with them. Strictly wanting centers lowers your pool for a destination for Iggy, if he is traded. I get the feeling he won't be. Your organization doesn't want to give him up because he is the face of the franchise and you are still within shouting distance of the play-offs. Say you are two points out near the deadline, do you move him? I don't think so. I think all this chatter about Iggy getting deal is just like the last two years. Besides, the organization will place a hefty price tag to get his services. The two places rumored to be leaders are Pittsburgh and Boston. Will Boston pay the price? I'm not too sure, especially for a rental. They learned their lesson with Kaberle.


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Also, just to address everyone thinking Iggy will walk and Calgary gets nothing.

His wife is currently pregnant, so hope you're willing to drop down a 3-5 year contract for him!

Good ole Iggy, even when his shooting % is down he still manages to score.

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03-08-2013, 10:57 AM
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Then we are a poor match for you in a deal so there is no reason for Calgary fans to come on and try to get a boatload out of Pittsburgh for Iggy. We don't have centers to give and we aren't giving Sutter. We have D prospects everyone would love to get their hands on - except Toronto, Minnesota and now Calgary. Seems to me you could use some D prospects too. It's not like your system is loaded with them. Strictly wanting centers lowers your pool for a destination for Iggy, if he is traded. I get the feeling he won't be. Your organization doesn't want to give him up because he is the face of the franchise and you are still within shouting distance of the play-offs. Say you are two points out near the deadline, do you move him? I don't think so. I think all this chatter about Iggy getting deal is just like the last two years. Besides, the organization will place a hefty price tag to get his services. The two places rumored to be leaders are Pittsburgh and Boston. Will Boston pay the price? I'm not too sure, especially for a rental. They learned their lesson with Kaberle.
Pretty stark difference if you've watched Kaberle and Iginla play. As far as Pitts and Hossa, well, **** happens. If Pitts thinks they need Iginla to make that run, they find a trade and I doubt Calgary says no to d prospects if they are the meat of the offer

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03-08-2013, 11:22 AM
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Pretty stark difference if you've watched Kaberle and Iginla play. As far as Pitts and Hossa, well, **** happens. If Pitts thinks they need Iginla to make that run, they find a trade and I doubt Calgary says no to d prospects if they are the meat of the offer
Not comparing Kaberle to Iginla as far as player, but rental. Boston got taken to the cleaners in that deal.

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03-08-2013, 11:24 AM
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He doesn't like your team because they tanked to get your star players.

Begin took the year off the recover from injures he has been better then TKO who the pens just signed.

They traded down last year and could have drafted Maatta.
Valid. There's no reason why a financially-strapped team featuring the likes of Ramzi Abid and Rico Fata should finish last in the league. Total tank job.

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Valid. There's no reason why a financially-strapped team featuring the likes of Ramzi Abid and Rico Fata should finish last in the league. Total tank job.
I never said I agree that is why he doesn't like the penguins, he feels they intentionally tanked to get Crosby etc.

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03-08-2013, 12:42 PM
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I honestly think if he/mgmt decided it was time to part ways, Iggy would be happy with going to a team like Boston.

I doubt he forces them to move him to the Pens.

I think he wants to remain a Flame, but he really wants a cup as well. However, he doesn't want to look like a dick by forcing a trade either. The big question I have is why he hasn't re-signed yet. That is the only thing that makes me wonder if he wants out, or maybe there is a reason I'm not aware of.

He is in a tough spot and I hope in the end it works out for Iggy and the Flames.
If Iginla moves, he will go to any contender that helps the Flames in terms of return. Iginla is one of the classiest most loyal guys in the league, to a fault. He could end up in Pitts, Boston, Chicago, LA, St. Louis ect. all that will matter is who fields the best offer.

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03-08-2013, 01:26 PM
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If Iginla moves, he will go to any contender that helps the Flames in terms of return. Iginla is one of the classiest most loyal guys in the league, to a fault. He could end up in Pitts, Boston, Chicago, LA, St. Louis ect. all that will matter is who fields the best offer.
No offense, but hearing someone other than Iggy say that is the only way I will believe it. If you have a direct quote you can link or a video, then ok. If not, then it sounds like wishful thinking more than anything.

If Boston/Chi etc offers a lesser package than some bubble team, I'm pretty sure Iggy would rather be moved to the legit contender.

Anyone who would bash him for feeling that way is wrong. Period.

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He doesn't like your team because they tanked to get your star players.

Begin took the year off the recover from injures he has been better then TKO who the pens just signed.

They traded down last year and could have drafted Maatta.
The guy doesn't know his hockey at all then. I guess the Oilers tanked to get their picks then right? Same with the Islanders, etc?

Penguins were bleeding money and needed to sell off its stars to stay alive. They still tried to stay competitive but were ravaged with injuries and not many coaches wanted to tackle a team with so many money issues so they had guys like Olczyk and Kehoe coaching them.

If he's so keen on dropping research, tell him to go do some. Also, Ty Rattie isn't Howse 2.0. Tell him to do that research too, he is clearly out of his element when it comes to legit knowledgeable hockey talk.

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If Iginla moves, he will go to any contender that helps the Flames in terms of return. Iginla is one of the classiest most loyal guys in the league, to a fault. He could end up in Pitts, Boston, Chicago, LA, St. Louis ect. all that will matter is who fields the best offer.
People said the same thing about Mats Sundin, did he let the Leafs trade him to get something before he walked as a UFA? Nope.

You can't "predict" what someone is going to do.

Iginla owes the flames NOTHING, absolutely nothing. For years they couldn't get him a proper #1 center, look at the crap they tried to pair him with. At this point, they owe him.

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03-08-2013, 02:28 PM
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Not comparing Kaberle to Iginla as far as player, but rental. Boston got taken to the cleaners in that deal.
I know, just relating that Kaberle when he was traded didn't offer near as much as Iginla does

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Iginla will never bring the same as Hossa/Kovalchuk. Both were younger and better. I'm not saying Iginla is a bad player, but is a notch below the other two.

The reduced cap also hurts his value. The Pens just like some other teams can't pay him what he's worth. If the Pens did they would have 2 great lines and about 6 AHL players rounding the bottom 6 and D. Plus, nothing to bring up if someone gets hurt.

That's why most teams look at him as rental. You are not going to give up a ton for a player you know you will not sign.
Look at what Ray Bourque brought Boston in a trade.

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