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03-08-2013, 06:16 PM
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Sedins on the half wall

Kassian in front of the net.

Kesler-Edler launching one-timers.

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03-08-2013, 06:23 PM
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Give Dan Hamhuis some PP time. He's very mobile and his shot is underrated, especially if he's on the right side. Also good at holding pucks in at the line

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03-08-2013, 06:50 PM
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03-08-2013, 07:01 PM
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Every person who called for Newell Brown to be fired in this thread failed to present a single criticism of Newell Brown. It's almost like some of you have no idea what you're talking about?

Ryan Kesler takes BY FAR the most PP shots on the team. When he returns expect the PP shot volume to increase. His absence is the biggest problem.

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03-08-2013, 07:51 PM
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Every person who called for Newell Brown to be fired in this thread failed to present a single criticism of Newell Brown. It's almost like some of you have no idea what you're talking about?

Ryan Kesler takes BY FAR the most PP shots on the team. When he returns expect the PP shot volume to increase. His absence is the biggest problem.
Fire the coach! herp derp

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03-08-2013, 07:52 PM
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Vishnovsky would be nice. But they need to set Garrison up more and Garrison has to shot ever time he gets a chance.

First unit:
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows-Kesler-Garrison

Second unit:
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen-Higgins-Edler or Bieksa

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03-08-2013, 07:53 PM
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Vishnovsky would be nice. But they need to set Garrison up more and Garrison has to shot ever time he gets a chance.

First unit:
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows-Kesler-Garrison

Second unit:
Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen-Higgins-Edler or Bieksa
This team still needs to make moves as well. Like we need a actual 3rd line center Manny could have did it if it wasn't for that eye injury. and we need a 2nd line scorer to go with Kesler. This summer Gillis will have to make some moves because half of our team will be UFA's

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03-08-2013, 08:48 PM
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We need more (or any??!) one timers

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03-08-2013, 08:57 PM
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How about Booth on the powerplay now for a change???

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03-08-2013, 09:07 PM
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put schroeder in front of the net, lappy and weise on the points, with bieksa and booth passing off the midboards.

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03-08-2013, 09:28 PM
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itd be a pretty easy experiment to get burrows and schroeder off the first unit and replace them with kassian and garrison, with the sole purpose of getting some ugly goals from a garrison point shot and a kassian screen

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03-08-2013, 09:37 PM
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Booth should be on the PP as he have big body and could be a net presences on the second unit and Kassasin on the first unit as the net presence..........adjustment need to be done

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03-08-2013, 09:39 PM
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Sedin Sedin Kesler
Edler Ehrhoff


God how i miss that. There is nobody on our roster than can do what Ehrhoff did and therefor our powerplay cannot be that good.

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03-08-2013, 09:42 PM
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Sedin Sedin Kesler
Edler Ehrhoff


God how i miss that. There is nobody on our roster than can do what Ehrhoff did and therefor our powerplay cannot be that good.
also that Kesler guy is pretty important

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03-08-2013, 09:45 PM
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Sedin Sedin Kesler
Edler Ehrhoff


God how i miss that. There is nobody on our roster than can do what Ehrhoff did and therefor our powerplay cannot be that good.
Ehrhoff's gone. Get over it.

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--Try Sedins with Booth or Kassian, get Schroeder off the point and start putting Hamhuis--Garrison on the points. Somewhere to start.

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03-08-2013, 09:48 PM
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Every person who called for Newell Brown to be fired in this thread failed to present a single criticism of Newell Brown. It's almost like some of you have no idea what you're talking about?

Ryan Kesler takes BY FAR the most PP shots on the team. When he returns expect the PP shot volume to increase. His absence is the biggest problem.
Do you not remember last year when we had Kesler and our PP still sucked? Newell Brown's shelf life is up. He's failed to adapt the power play to changing conditions once when teams starting adapting, and again with Kesler out.

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03-08-2013, 09:53 PM
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Fire Newell Brown number one, number two get a coach who can ACTUALLY COACH a PP, number three put your best men out on the first unit and get your second unit some time as well..

**** THE DROP PASS

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03-08-2013, 10:10 PM
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other people have suggested these things, but most important is giving kassian an extended shot on the first unit in front of the net. will do wonders, if only to cut down on unnecessary wear and tear on burrows, and when he comes back also to kesler.

i'd also put barker on the point on the first unit to give it a shot. he sucks at everything except getting shots through. if he's going to be in the lineup anyway, and if our PP is going to be firing blanks, what's the worst that could happen? might as well see if it works. and if it does, which isn't probable, but worth it to find out, then i wouldn't mind him as a specialist in the playoffs. give him a fourth line wing spot, but never actually play him unless we have the man advantage. would also be nice to have someone able to slot back on D if/when someone gets injured rather than going with five D for the rest of the game.

if barker doesn't work, get gary back there. really, best case scenario is hank directing traffic with edler and gary/barker firing bombs. opens up space for sedinery, which a big body like kassian also does.


on the second unit, scrotes handles the puck. we don't have a decent point man, and no one else other than the sedins has the vision to do this. boots in front of the net, raymond as the third forward. i guess hamhuis on the point with gary, though maybe try ballard with gary as well? ballard was a capable second unit PP guy his first couple of years with phoenix.


now:

sedin sedin kassian
edler barker

boots scrotes raymond
hamhuis gary


when everyone's healthy:

sedin sedin kassian
kesler edler

boots scrotes raymond
bieksa gary

if by some crazy fluke barker works, slot him in kesler's place on the first unit, and second unit is:

boots kesler scrotes
bieksa gary

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Every person who called for Newell Brown to be fired in this thread failed to present a single criticism of Newell Brown. It's almost like some of you have no idea what you're talking about?

Ryan Kesler takes BY FAR the most PP shots on the team. When he returns expect the PP shot volume to increase. His absence is the biggest problem.
Are you serious right now? I just thought it was blatantly obvious and didn't need to be laid out considering how closely most people here follow this team. You know, kind of like how people will say O.J. Simpson is guilty without going into details.

1) Let's start with the obvious. How about the fact that the Canucks PP unit ranks 20th in the league right now. Teams like Calgary and Florida are performing significantly better than Vancouver this season on the PP. Considering the tools Newell Brown has to work with, this shouldn't be happening.

2) It's not like this is just a new trend either, how about the fact the Canucks went 4-for-42 in their last ten regular season games last year. Outside of that one game against Boston last season, the Canucks PP has been below par for well over a year now.

3) Should we talk about the last two playoff series against the Bruins and Kings, where the Canucks PP went a combine 5 for 54.

Sure Newell Brown had some early success with the PP in Vancouver, but the PP has been brutal for over a year. At what point does it become obvious that the book is out on Newell Brown? How long did it take him to realize that teams had figured out the stupid Sedin drop pass before entering the zone? The guy refuses to make significant scheme adjustments to the PP, and when he does they are usually the wrong move (see Schroeder on the point).

Go ahead, make a convincing case for why Newell Brown should remain in charge of the PP. This should be amusing


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Sneak an extra man on to the ice and hope the referees don't notice.

They probably won't notice.
Well, Hansen and Burr have already done the Harry potter wand trick. Might as well bust out the invisibility cloak now.

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Are you serious right now? I just thought it was blatantly obvious and didn't need to be laid out considering how closely most people here follow this team. You know, kind of like how people will say O.J. Simpson is guilty without going into details.

1) Let's start with the obvious. How about the fact that the Canucks PP unit ranks 20th in the league right now. Teams like Calgary and Florida are performing significantly better than Vancouver this season on the PP. Considering the tools Newell Brown has to work with, this shouldn't be happening.

2) It's not like this is just a new trend either, how about the fact the Canucks went 4-for-42 in their last ten regular season games last year. Outside of that one game against Boston last season, the Canucks PP has been below par for well over a year now.

3) Should we talk about the last two playoff series against the Bruins and Kings, where the Canucks PP has gone a combine 5 for 54.

Sure Newell Brown had some early success with the PP in Vancouver, but the PP has been brutal for over a year. At what point does it become obvious that the book is out on Newell Brown? How long did it take him to realize that teams had figured out the stupid Sedin drop pass before entering the zone? The guy refuses to make significant scheme adjustments to the PP, and when he does they are usually the wrong move (see Schroeder on the point).

Go ahead, make a convincing case for why Newell Brown should remain in charge of the PP. This should be amusing
I think the poster wanted more constructive criticism of what it actually is Brown is doing wrong.

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I think the poster wanted more constructive criticism of what it actually is Brown is doing wrong.
Not using our imaginary PPQB Dman properly.

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I would like to see the Sedins up front with Burr screening the goalie. Have Ballard (when healthy) or Tanev or whoever is more likely to give GOOD passes for Garrison to one-time. Once the opposing team has had enough of the bombs from the point, feed the puck low and let the Sedins work. Keep the pkers from getting comfortable, move bodies and move the puck.

Make sure that Edler never sees another PP minute until he screws his head on right.

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03-09-2013, 05:57 AM
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They need a guy that can walk the line at the point to change shooting angles.

Edler Garrison may have a good slap shot, but god do they suck at moving laterally with the puck.

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I think the poster wanted more constructive criticism of what it actually is Brown is doing wrong.
I think the numbers provided in the last post pritty much condemn further inquiry. Newell Brown (As much as he is probably a great guy) has run his course and by the looks of it lost the spot, new thinking is needed for the team to be fresh and to even make any run in the next year or 2.

This trend cannot continue without just putting needless miles on good players.

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