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03-08-2013, 09:43 PM
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lol!

A lot of people focus on Torts' constant ranting and raving, but the key to his success as a coach is the psychological component. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a psychology degree, or is getting a lot of advice from someone with one. It's all mental with him.
Yeah calling your young players Dummies is right out of Carl Jung and Freud
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im not saying trade the team away or we need drastic changes...

I just have a feeling a trade or a signing is coming soon. It just feels like it is coming. We shall see

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I left this game more disappointed than the Pens shutout. This was at least a game where we very wel could've won, but that 3rd period was garbage

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03-08-2013, 09:46 PM
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Nonsense, both goals were either a weak floater from the blue line. Or an outside shot the goalie should have saved.

The line had very little offensive zone pressure in that game. Steps with Hags gives a lot of support down low. Richards has a tendency to let Hagelin do all the work. Richards contributed very little on the cycle tonight. Since we weren't possessing much, Nash almost never saw the puck..
Excellent post.

**** it, hire Blueshirt Believer for coach.

Seriously, though, this is spot on. As Nash controls the puck, the Rangers control the game. Why would Tortorella change a line that clearly has been working? Hagelin and Stepan work so well with Nash. They know how to get him the puck, and they compliment each other's games as well. Hagelin's speed offsets Stepan's lack of it. When Nash is over-powered by too many defenders, Hagelin is always there to retrieve his back passes to behind the net. As for Stepan, he has a way of getting lost in the offensive zone and behind the defense, while also contributing on the forecheck.

Please, for the next game, put that line back together.

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Nonsense, both goals were either a weak floater from the blue line. Or an outside shot the goalie should have saved.

The line had very little offensive zone pressure in that game. Steps with Hags gives a lot of support down low. Richards has a tendency to let Hagelin do all the work. Richards contributed very little on the cycle tonight. Since we weren't possessing much, Nash almost never saw the puck..
Nash's shot deflected in off a D man, wouldn't call it a floater, and Richards goal caught their G out of position, and was in a perfect spot.

I thought that line did about as well as any other line did, which is just as much a slight to the others as it was a compliment to that line.

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03-08-2013, 09:48 PM
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Yeah calling your young players Dummies is right out of Carl Jung and Freud
Just stop .
Because no teenager has ever responded to criticism and challenge by coming out with fire and seeking approval.

Hey, hasn't Miller been playing well, really playing hard, by the way?

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03-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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Would nobody else here like to see some pushback from the Rangers?
Pacioretty on McDonagh.
Kaleta on Richards.
Lucic on Nash..

Neil yapping and dissing tonight.

Everybody happy?

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03-08-2013, 09:52 PM
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im not saying trade the team away or we need drastic changes...

I just have a feeling a trade or a signing is coming soon. It just feels like it is coming. We shall see
Yeah, a-ha you know who he is

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In addition, I do agree that the Hags Step Nash line should go back together, with Gabby Richie Cally 2nd line.

But that line breaking up is not what lost this game.

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03-08-2013, 09:54 PM
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Would nobody else here like to see some pushback from the Rangers?
Pacioretty on McDonagh.
Kaleta on Richards.
Lucic on Nash..

Neil yapping and dissing tonight.

Everybody happy?
Well Nash and Callahan pushed puck tonight. I thought they were pretty tough tonight, I have no complaints of that front, for the first time in a while, probably. I really am going to lay the loss solely on the shoulders of Tortorella. Just a compete and utter failure of a game from him.

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03-08-2013, 09:56 PM
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Well Nash and Callahan pushed puck tonight. I thought they were pretty tough tonight, I have no complaints of that front, for the first time in a while, probably. I really am going to lay the loss solely on the shoulders of Tortorella. Just a compete and utter failure of a game from him.
Not the push I am talking about.

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03-08-2013, 09:57 PM
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Nash's shot deflected in off a D man, wouldn't call it a floater, and Richards goal caught their G out of position, and was in a perfect spot.

I thought that line did about as well as any other line did, which is just as much a slight to the others as it was a compliment to that line.
Which isn't saying much. The second line, even they could at least get possession of the puck, looked completely out of synch. You cannot put Cally with skill players, he overthinks. You need Cally with a two way center(like Miller)who can play a very simplified game.

I also think Step needs to play with two solid forecheckers(like Nash/Hagelin) to get the most out of his game.

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03-08-2013, 09:59 PM
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In addition, I do agree that the Hags Step Nash line should go back together, with Gabby Richie Cally 2nd line.

But that line breaking up is not what lost this game.
No, Cally needs to be back with Miller. Richards and Gabby should be paired with Pyatt in a third line capacity.

But, it won't happen imo. Torts will continue to slot Richards in with Nash in hopes of getting him going.

We have to hope that Richards can gain some chemistry with Nash.

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No, Cally needs to be back with Miller. Richards and Gabby should be paired with Pyatt in a third line capacity.
Who goes on the LW, though? Powe? Boyle? We'd probably have to bring up Kreider to do that, which I wouldn't be adverse to at all.

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03-08-2013, 10:02 PM
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Not the push I am talking about.
I meant to say Neil, don't know what the hell I was doing.

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Which isn't saying much. The second line, even they could at least get possession of the puck, looked completely out of synch. You cannot put Cally with skill players, he overthinks. You need Cally with a two way center(like Miller)who can play a very simplified game.

I also think Step needs to play with two solid forecheckers(like Nash/Hagelin) to get the most out of his game.
See, I think Cally was doing alright with Stepan, managing to get step the puck and opening up some space, it's Gabby that was throwing off his game. Any line with Callahan on it is going to be one that gets offense through board work and forechecking, and Gaborik's puck control and boardwork, well i'm not going to describe it, because this is a family oriented website.

He may be better with Miller, because Miller can play that north south game as well as Step. Still, Gaborik on that wing is simply not a fit. If Gabby and Hags were swapped, it could be an experiment, but really, there's a bit of a mismatch.

He had a great run alongside Richards last year. That can be looked at. Hell, bring Miller up to the wing, try something.

It's a tough nut to crack.

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03-08-2013, 10:04 PM
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Who goes on the LW, though? Powe? Boyle? We'd probably have to bring up Kreider to do that, which I wouldn't be adverse to at all.
Powe.

Krieder would be really smart to put on that line. But I am not sure if they are going to do that...

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Who goes on the LW, though? Powe? Boyle? We'd probably have to bring up Kreider to do that, which I wouldn't be adverse to at all.
Trade Boyle for a 3rd line winger with better hands and IQ

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No, Cally needs to be back with Miller. Richards and Gabby should be paired with Pyatt in a third line capacity.

But, it won't happen imo. Torts will continue to slot Richards in with Nash in hopes of getting him going.

We have to hope that Richards can gain some chemistry with Nash.
A line with Richards and Gaborik isn't going to be played like a 3rd line. If anything, Miller-Cally would be.

Nash playing the right side is a bit frustrating at times.

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A line with Richards and Gaborik isn't going to be played like a 3rd line. If anything, Miller-Cally would be.

Nash playing the right side is a bit frustrating at times.
Our LW depth is horrifying.

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03-08-2013, 10:09 PM
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Underwhelming 3rd. Team lost because they ran out of gas in the last 13 minutes. It was a neck and neck game the entire way, and that stretch was just awful. Poor conditioning? Back to back nights? Whatever it is, they looked absolutely spent. It looked like we were back in the Conference Finals squaring off against the Devils.

I was really hoping for a point, but it is what it is. Now we've got a tough game against a surging Capitals team. Again, you can't help but give the Senators props for playing an excellent game against us.

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Our LW depth is horrifying.
I do think forcing Gabby onto the left wing is killing him.

But Nash is better on the right.

the hell do we do?

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On this team Cally should be a 3line rw.
Hold on ... hear me out.
If we are that deep, that means we are cup contenders.
I love the captain (look at my avatar) but you have to put your players in a position to succeed, Cally will make the 3rd line dynamite with Miller and a X, whover we get for Boyle +
Gaborik is not a 3liner, he needs to be fed pucks by a decent center.

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I do think forcing Gabby onto the left wing is killing him.

But Nash is better on the right.

the hell do we do?
you call up Krieder...


You make your lines:

Hagelin-Step-Nash

Krieder/Pyatt-Miller-Cally

Krieder/Pyatt-Richards-Gabby

Problem solved...

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On this team Cally should be a 3line rw.
Hold on ... hear me out.
If we are that deep, that means we are cup contenders.
I love the captain (look at my avatar) but you have to put your players in a position to succeed, Cally will make the 3rd line dynamite with Miller and a X, whover we get for Boyle +
Gaborik is not a 3liner, he needs to be fed pucks by a decent center.
your right, in a way. Cally needs to play a simplified game. He shouldn't be playing a skill game at all..

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