Okay, before Leafs fans get in a tizzy at the mere idea of trading Gardiner, I'm not saying we should trade him, I just want to see what the perception of other fan-bases is with regards to his value. After Kadri and Rielly he's probably our top asset as a young, cheap, puck-moving defenceman. I mean if a guy like Goligoski can get James Neal, I wonder what kind of young forward Gardiner could bring back in return.
Is there any team with a young center prospect that would trade him straight up for Gardiner? If your team had a high enough pick in this draft to take a guy like Sean Monahan, would you trade it for Gardiner?
We get it, you don't like Gardiner. Stop running around with an agenda.
What are the odds you're a ducks fan?
Actually, I do like Gardiner. I like him a lot. The thing is, the description Pi was giving me was more along the lines of Gardiner's top end potential. It isn't a realistic assessment of where he is now, or where he is likely to fall in his NHL career.
Leaf fans do you think Rielly will be the better player?
Yes, I believe he will because I think Rielly can be a dynamic #1 d-man that we have been searching for a long time and Gardiner is more like top-pairing d-man in the mold of becoming a good #2 if he puts it together.
The main thing in my opinion that separates Rielly from Gardiner is Rielly has elite level hockey IQ, Rielly can think the game at a very high level.
More accurate then your opinion sense we see him play. Look I know as a ducks fan it must suck knowing that Gardiner was stolen from your team, then Shultz bolted for the Oilers, but just because your team lost it's 2 best young d men don't that cloud your judgement.
The Leafs saw what he could do last year, and aren't going to give up on him because they've got 9 healthy dmen and are playing well.
The only deal he'd be made available in, is in a larger package for a bonafide star player... however, if the Leafs continue to win, the list of players that the Leafs would include Gardiner for gets shorter. From a practical standpoint, I don't think there's any wingers on that.