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03-08-2013, 11:22 AM
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Don't get Russo's comment about Scandella being trade-bait. Trading Scandella won't bring back a Dman with as much upside as Scandella.

When comparing apples to apples, for our larger, defensive Dmen, Scandella is hands down better than Stoner and Falk in all areas of the game other than strength. Because Scandella is still a beanpole. Stoner is six year older and Falk is two years older than Scandella. When Scandella can get healthy and put on some muscle, he will be a massively better player than Falk or Stoner. But that is going to take some time.

Falk is great when he's on. A softer pillon when he's not. Stoner has shown that he's good to have in the mix, but is far from a top-4 Dman.
100% Agreed.

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03-08-2013, 11:48 AM
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Didn't see he was trade bait but I think Falk has just as much upside. He's more willing to use his body, arguably has a better first pass, neither of them have show much offensively, Scandella's probably a bit better skater but Falk has been able to stay healthier and has a size advantage. Scandella might have a little more upside overall but we're talking bottom pairing defensemen.

Depends on the return.
Oddly enough, i just had an "argument" about Scandella with a friend who asked "why isn't Scandella up here?"

The few Aeros games I've watched during the lockout, Scandella wasn't that great. Sure, he looked great when it was he and Brodin, but when you don't have to do much, anyone can "look" great. Wheels really fell off the bus when Brodin got broke. Plus, his limited time up here was definitely not impressive.

I would also consider moving him if another team wanted him for a sweet package deal that would net us a RW power forward or a legitimate top-4 D.

As of right now, I still have concerns about our D.

Exceeding expectations: Suter, Brodin
Acceptable: Gilbert, Falk
Failing: Scandella, Spurgeon, Prosser, Stoner

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03-08-2013, 11:53 AM
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As of right now, I still have concerns about our D.

Exceeding expectations: Suter, Brodin
Acceptable: Gilbert, Falk
Failing: Scandella, Spurgeon, Prosser, Stoner
I'd argue that Stoner "failing" is more a product of him being asked to do more than he is capable of. Everybody here knows that he isn't a real #4 D-man, but is being forced into it due to the circumstances.

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03-08-2013, 11:56 AM
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Didn't see he was trade bait but I think Falk has just as much upside. He's more willing to use his body, arguably has a better first pass, neither of them have show much offensively, Scandella's probably a bit better skater but Falk has been able to stay healthier and has a size advantage. Scandella might have a little more upside overall but we're talking bottom pairing defensemen.

Depends on the return.
But if you were compare Falk at age 22, he wasn't that physical. That was always the knock on him.

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03-08-2013, 12:23 PM
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Brodin can play either side though. He'll likely get knocked down to the second pairing with Gilbert eventually.
IMO, the only way you can move Brodin off of the top unit, is if you find another RD that is capable of doing as well as Brodin has. If that happens it will still leave Gilbert, Dumba, and Spurgeon competing for 2 spots.

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03-08-2013, 12:44 PM
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Anyone know anything about Heatley to New Jersey? Devil's board is blowing up over rumor that Heatley is being traded and has waived his no movement clause. However, they have literally ZERO evidence of such rumors being true. They pointed to KFAN saying he didn't travel to Nashville, but that's nowhere on KFAN's site. I assume if none of us are talking about it, there is absolutely zero truth to the rumors.

Stupid me, posts of saying KFAN said he wasn't on the plane were made yesterday. Wild didn't fly until today.


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Anyone know anything about Heatley to New Jersey? Devil's board is blowing up over rumor that Heatley is being traded and has waived his no movement clause. However, they have literally ZERO evidence of such rumors being true. They pointed to KFAN saying he didn't travel to Nashville, but that's nowhere on KFAN's site. I assume if none of us are talking about it, there is absolutely zero truth to the rumors.

Stupid me, posts of saying KFAN said he wasn't on the plane were made yesterday. Wild didn't fly until today.
I was just informed by Mod that the Heatley "story" is NOT true. Not even worth talking about.

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03-08-2013, 01:09 PM
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PMB would be a nice addition to NJD, they need skill and low risk he's both, granted his risk a bit higher because of his injury history but still for the right price its a low risk trade

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PMB would be a nice addition to NJD, they need skill and low risk he's both, granted his risk a bit higher because of his injury history but still for the right price its a low risk trade
BOOM! Make the deal happen. No Tallinder (or any other "available" Devil) in return though. A mid-pick would be fine by me. It's unfortunate cuz I've always loved his game (when healthy), but from the business side of things, he's gotta go. Which he most certainly will at season's end anyway.

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03-08-2013, 01:22 PM
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I'm kind of hoping we can trade PMB for a 2nd.

He has skill, and could contribute.

There is no future for him with the Wild unfortunately... We also need to get rid of at least one of our little guys.

Little guys can contribute, but we have too many, which just throws out the balance, making it too easy for teams like Anaheim to push us around.

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03-08-2013, 01:35 PM
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But if you were compare Falk at age 22, he wasn't that physical. That was always the knock on him.
I don't see Scandy being more than a third pairing defender. Maybe in a couple years he COULD be better than Falk, but if we can get something that can help us now, I'd do it. Third pairing D is not hard to find.

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03-08-2013, 01:45 PM
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The Heatley rumor does make some sense I guess, but at this point it's just that... a rumor. Their prospect pool is full of big physical defensemen and I could see the Wild being interested in them.

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Sounds like that Heatley rumor is BS. He doesn't even have any kind of NTC or NMC anymore. Or at least I thought the last part of his NTC went away after he was traded here.

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03-08-2013, 02:10 PM
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first why would we trade a guy CF worked hard to bring here? 2nd who will fill his skates w equal or better production? asking say coyle to step up and produce at a vets level is just not realistic. just my 1/2 cent, i keep falling behind the rate of inflation. cheers TGIF!

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03-08-2013, 02:23 PM
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Sounds like that Heatley rumor is BS. He doesn't even have any kind of NTC or NMC anymore. Or at least I thought the last part of his NTC went away after he was traded here.
Still has the NTC as far as I know.

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Pretty sure the NTC is gone.

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Revisiting the Heatley-Havlat trade

Heatley:104gp 32g 66pts = 0.31gpg 0.63ppg
Havlat: 49gp 10g 33pts = 0.20gpg 0.67ppg

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03-08-2013, 02:42 PM
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jarick great comparison, big diff! thanks again CF that was a good trade.

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03-08-2013, 03:29 PM
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It would be nice if it was part of a Clarkson deal

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03-08-2013, 10:01 PM
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http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...5#post61284755

yeah i did it

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Brodin for Klefbom. That's what I expect Oilers fans to say.

EDIT: And maybe more, of course.

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03-08-2013, 10:57 PM
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Exceeding expectations: Suter, Brodin
Acceptable: Gilbert, Falk
Failing: Scandella, Spurgeon, Prosser, Stoner
Spot on. Although I think Gilbert has been tailing off lately.

Trade Scandella? What is that nonsense?

You don't trade upside like that, and if you do it sure as hell better not be for Cameron ****ing Barker!

I'll be getting my pitchfork ready if Scandella is traded for some 2nd/3rd pairing Dman

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Spot on. Although I think Gilbert has been tailing off lately.

Trade Scandella? What is that nonsense?

You don't trade upside like that, and if you do it sure as hell better not be for Cameron ****ing Barker!

I'll be getting my pitchfork ready if Scandella is traded for some 2nd/3rd pairing Dman
Scandella's potential is a second pairing defenseman...

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03-08-2013, 11:05 PM
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Scandella's potential is a second pairing defenseman...
That's where I disagree, his upside is top pairing imo. Sure he may not reach it, but I'm not willing to see him traded before he is given the time he needs. 1A Brodin/Suter and 1B Scandella/Dumba.

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Actually what would make more sense is to pair Scandella and Bumba with Suter or Brodin.

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