The cap is dropping next year, and the Letang/Malkin deals won't kick in till the next year. By then, the cap will rise and be around 70 mil. (i would assume). Will be room to give Letang 7 (which he deserves whether people here think it or not) and Malkin 9.7.
The cap is gana be 64.3 million for the next two years and its only gana go up like 1.5-2 each year so you might wana redo your thoughts
The cap is gana be 64.3 million for the next two years and its only gana go up like 1.5-2 each year so you might wana redo your thoughts
Poor English aside...the cap is 'gana' be $64.3 million for next year. After that it is tied to revenues, with the numbers you seem to be referencing being pre-season projections...projections that are looking a little foolish right now considering revenues and ratings are up right now and they didn't account for the impending re-alignment.
I don't think that the cap will be back to it's current level in 2014-15...but I don't think it'll be far behind.
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As much as I love Letang's game, I think we have leverage in negotiations with him. We have all the prospects. We have options. Yeah, we kinda suck without him but you have to use the D prospect pool as leverage in negotiations.
Letang is not a player I'd want to give anything he wants to, salary-wise.
James Neal pretty much could have written his own check. Not the situation with Letang.
Neal was a RFA before he signed his deal while Letang is set to be a UFA. The premise of your argument is invalid.
No way. It helped us actually. Letang see's the price range of players his skill set and knows he won't get a better deal than what we offer and knows if he leaves, he won't find a better situation.
Letang gets a 5 year 5.75 million dollar a year deal. That's my guess.
No way. It helped us actually. Letang see's the price range of players his skill set and knows he won't get a better deal than what we offer and knows if he leaves, he won't find a better situation.
Letang gets a 5 year 5.75 million dollar a year deal. That's my guess.
Letang will get 8 years at $6.5m minimum and be worth it.
No way. It helped us actually. Letang see's the price range of players his skill set and knows he won't get a better deal than what we offer and knows if he leaves, he won't find a better situation.
Letang gets a 5 year 5.75 million dollar a year deal. That's my guess.
Letang will not get less than 6 mil. Anything below 7 means he left money on the table.
The term is the interesting question. I know we're loaded with prospects but I think we give him 8 regardless. Norris caliber is Norris caliber, and 100% of our prospects are far from a lock for that.
Let's not kid ourselves here, folks...OEL's contract bought out two years of unrestricted free agency. He's a RFA coming off his entry-level contract and he's turning 22 in July. He'll have 7 1/2 full seasons in the NHL at the end of that deal (counting this year as full).
Letang's deal was signed when he was 23. Letang will have 7 full seasons and a cup of coffee in another by the end of his current deal, which bought out zero years of free agency. His next deal will be all UFA years. What OEL signed for matters very little when it comes to Letang's.
I'm expecting Letang to get the full 8 years with a cap hit around 7...but if Letang wants to maximize his pay day there's going to be at least one team out there who would throw Getzlaf money at him for 7 years.
Let's not kid ourselves here, folks...OEL's contract bought out two years of unrestricted free agency. He's a RFA coming off his entry-level contract and he's turning 22 in July. He'll have 7 1/2 full seasons in the NHL at the end of that deal (counting this year as full).
Letang's deal was signed when he was 23. Letang will have 7 full seasons and a cup of coffee in another by the end of his current deal, which bought out zero years of free agency. His next deal will be all UFA years. What OEL signed for matters very little when it comes to Letang's.
I'm expecting Letang to get the full 8 years with a cap hit around 7...but if Letang wants to maximize his pay day there's going to be at least one team out there who would throw Getzlaf money at him for 7 years.
Agree with every word.
And I think that because of that, there's a possibility for him to be moved a la Staal if he doesn't want to re-sign in July. I don't think that's likely to happen -- it was much easier to get an immediate replacement for the third-line center than it is for a top defenseman -- but it's been in the back of my mind.
If Letang is set on testing the market, the Pens won't be able to outbid the rest of the league. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
everyone on the main boards tells me that OEL is better than Letang, so I guess he just kept Letang's price down!!!
OEL's contract and Letangs have no bearing one versus the other. OEL was a signed RFA. Letang will be UFA, completely different situations. The lowest number we will be able to get Letang to will be 6.5, best to just prepare yourself for 7m +/-.
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Letang will point to Doughty's contract. Simple as that.
I dont think so, its the same with doughty and oel. Both signed their contracts when they were rfa's while letang is a ufa.. He could point at suters contract, or webers, but hopefully its karlsons contract. I would have no problem giving his 6-6.5 million. I dont really think he will get weber/chara money, although teams will be willing to pay that like philly, maybe the islanders etc
OEL's contract and Letangs have no bearing one versus the other. OEL was a signed RFA. Letang will be UFA, completely different situations. The lowest number we will be able to get Letang to will be 6.5, best to just prepare yourself for 7m +/-.
I thought the ridiculous sarcasm was enough without the
The term is the interesting question. I know we're loaded with prospects but I think we give him 8 regardless. Norris caliber is Norris caliber, and 100% of our prospects are far from a lock for that.
I don't think he signs a contract for less than 7, so yea, the Pens would have to give him 8 to retain him, in my mind.
And I think that because of that, there's a possibility for him to be moved a la Staal if he doesn't want to re-sign in July. I don't think that's likely to happen -- it was much easier to get an immediate replacement for the third-line center than it is for a top defenseman -- but it's been in the back of my mind.
If Letang is set on testing the market, the Pens won't be able to outbid the rest of the league. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.
I agree. I have thought that Shero will very quickly get a feel for where Letang is looking at money and years wise, and he will offer him a competitive deal. Hard to say what Letang does. I do think if Letang even ponders going to free agency that he gets moved without hesitation.
I agree. I have thought that Shero will very quickly get a feel for where Letang is looking at money and years wise, and he will offer him a competitive deal. Hard to say what Letang does. I do think if Letang even ponders going to free agency that he gets moved without hesitation.
If I were to put myself into Shero's shoes. I'd start this conversation with Letang at the end of the post season this year. Because in the off season or draft we could make a huge splash with Letang if it seems like he is going to price himself out on us. Or at the very least have a sense of where he is with the organization moving through next season up to the deadline.
But before any of that I'd try to resign him 100% before other options but if he is going to price himself out the earlier you can start working market value for him in a trade the better for the organization.
The difference, as I see it, between the Staal situation and the Letang situation: Staal, as great as he is, was still and always going to be No. 3. Letang is ahead of Martin and Orpik, so he should be treated as such.
If it means dropping our shutdown pairing to keep Letang (hypothetically), then so be it.
I would love to trade Letang to Montreal for Subban if it ever came to that, but then we'd be faced with the same deal with P.K. in just a year's time. I don't want to go down that road continuously.
