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03-08-2013, 10:01 PM
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EDM and MIN

To Minnesota:
Oscar Klefbom

To Edmonton
Darcy Kuempur

Minnesota gets Brodin's brother from another mother, while Edmonton gets a goalie who's from Alberta and is looking pretty damn good in the NHL right now.

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03-08-2013, 10:05 PM
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As much as I'd love to get Klefbom from EDM it'd take a lot to get him.

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03-08-2013, 10:08 PM
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Goalies don't usually have a ton of value as prospects unless they are considered elite prospects. Kuemper is not an elite tender' prospect so he's not going to retun a whole lot. He's probably going to return a 2nd like a Bishop did last season. Nothing close to a Klefbom.

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03-08-2013, 10:25 PM
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I'd do it in a heartbeat, so Edmonton likely wouldn't.

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03-08-2013, 10:40 PM
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What's that? You're offering us up Clutterbuck ++ ? Sure...

Oh wait... you offered us a slightly above average goalie prospect.

Haha

Good one.

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03-08-2013, 10:40 PM
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To Minnesota:
Oscar Klefbom

To Edmonton
Darcy Kuempur

Minnesota gets Brodin's brother from another mother, while Edmonton gets a goalie who's from Alberta and is looking pretty damn good in the NHL right now.
Less than 4 full games and "damn good" is the tag?

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03-08-2013, 10:54 PM
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To Minnesota:
Oscar Klefbom

To Edmonton
Darcy Kuempur

Minnesota gets Brodin's brother from another mother, while Edmonton gets a goalie who's from Alberta and is looking pretty damn good in the NHL right now.
Please stop, definitely need more than a goalie prospect who I don't think should be considered Damn good I mean come on he's barley played in the NHL and while a 2.22 GAA isn't bad for 3 game started and for 4 games played it's just way to early to say he's looking pretty damn good. Since 4 games isn't much to look at/go off of yet.


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03-09-2013, 02:24 AM
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Klefbom was as good as Brodin in their last season. Similar players with similar upside. Both have incredibly high hockey IQ, but Brodin is smoother and more cerebral, while Klefbom is bigger and more physical. Both have top pairing upside. Obviously Brodin has proven more at the NHL level but this proposal is like me coming here in March of 2012 and proposing a Brodin to Edmonton for Tyler Bunz trade.

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03-09-2013, 02:40 AM
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Klefblom is a high risk, high reward type of player. He has some injury concerns to worry about. Not a good enough motive for Oilers to trade him though.

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Would take a lot more than Kuemper to get Klefblom.

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To Minnesota:
Oscar Klefbom

To Edmonton
Darcy Kuempur

Minnesota gets Brodin's brother from another mother, while Edmonton gets a goalie who's from Alberta and is looking pretty damn good in the NHL right now.
so a 5th rounder for a first rounder? Sorry, I will just say now and suggest in a few years you look back on this offer and make your own conclusions on why I said no

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03-09-2013, 05:22 AM
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To Minnesota:
Oscar Klefbom

To Edmonton
Darcy Kuempur

Minnesota gets Brodin's brother from another mother, while Edmonton gets a goalie who's from Alberta and is looking pretty damn good in the NHL right now.
you do realize he has played just 4 games in the NHL and for a goalie that is next to nothing

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03-09-2013, 06:55 AM
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so a 5th rounder for a first rounder? Sorry, I will just say now and suggest in a few years you look back on this offer and make your own conclusions on why I said no
Though I agree that Kuemper is not enough to get Klefbom, this is one of the worst arguments you can possibly make.

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03-09-2013, 07:18 AM
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Though I agree that Kuemper is not enough to get Klefbom, this is one of the worst arguments you can possibly make.
the fact he has only played 4 games in the nhl--I needed to look beyond what the opinion were--he was a 5th rounder. three years removed from being a starter with red deet and spent time in the echl and has been the back up in the minors for the last two years also gets my attention

Until he got injured Klefbom was pulling top minutes on his team and was highly regarded as a guy could be the next top Swedish D men to be developed

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03-09-2013, 07:27 AM
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the fact he has only played 4 games in the nhl--I needed to look beyond what the opinion were--he was a 5th rounder. three years removed from being a starter with red deet and spent time in the echl and has been the back up in the minors for the last two years also gets my attention

Until he got injured Klefbom was pulling top minutes on his team and was highly regarded as a guy could be the next top Swedish D men to be developed
Now you've completely convinced me you have no idea what you're talking about.

The round he was drafted in holds no bearing on his current value, especially as a goalie, don't bring it up again.

He's TWO years removed (which is the norm for a lot of 22 year olds) from being a starter with Red Deer, a year in which he won quite a few respectable awards, including CHL Goalie of the Year.

Then he made the switch to the ECHL so he could get minutes as a starter. Since Hackett was further along in his development, Hackett was kept in Houston. He was not sent to the ECHL because he's bad.

Then he came up to Houston this year and took the starting job from Matt Hackett. He earned a call-up over Hackett, and in his four games in the NHL he has looked great, even if it's only been four games.

Now he's injured, so Hackett's getting the call-up.

You seemed to enjoy looking at where he played, but how about looking at the numbers he put up wherever he went?

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03-09-2013, 08:31 AM
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Kuemper is not anywhere near enough to get Klefbom. Wild fans know this. Please don't lump us in with the OP.

One of Hackett or Kuemper will likely be moved in the next year or two, but it's not going to be for a prospect like Klefbom.

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03-09-2013, 09:48 AM
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From an Oilers perspective, I wouldn't do it.

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That's a horrible deal. And I'm Kuemper's #1 fan from his Red Deer Rebels days.

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03-09-2013, 01:29 PM
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why do people keep trying to send goaltenders to edmonton? do they realize that the oilers problems in their last 2 games are that they've scored 0 goals and never looked like a threat to score once.... a different goaltender is going to change that? Hardly. People just listened too much when everyone in the offseason was ragging on Dubnyk. Dubnyk is not a bad goal tender, he's a decent guy, but he can't make a team that either doesn't care or doesn't know what the hell they're doing play better.

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what about maagnus paajavi for ben bishop

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Baaadd for Edmonton..

GMST might not be that smart of a trader, but he's not Howson/Snow dumb.

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why do people keep trying to send goaltenders to edmonton? do they realize that the oilers problems in their last 2 games are that they've scored 0 goals and never looked like a threat to score once.... a different goaltender is going to change that? Hardly. People just listened too much when everyone in the offseason was ragging on Dubnyk. Dubnyk is not a bad goal tender, he's a decent guy, but he can't make a team that either doesn't care or doesn't know what the hell they're doing play better.
I guess you haven't checked NHL.com or any sports sites that devote any time to hockey at all..... You would've seen that highlight reel goal by Legwand.

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I could see maybe a Matt Dumba for Klefbom trade with the Oil adding a little extra to balance the value. Dumba has the western Canada connection and Klefbom has the Brodin connection.

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03-09-2013, 02:16 PM
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so a 5th rounder for a first rounder? Sorry, I will just say now and suggest in a few years you look back on this offer and make your own conclusions on why I said no
Bieksa-5th rounder for Barker-1st rounder. Also would be a bad deal by your reasoning.

But ya, agree that EDM doesn't do this though.

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