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03-09-2013, 09:44 AM
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If you just want to putz around, Knoppix on a USB stick is a nice alternative. Doing it on USB lets you make your writes and save changes, but doesn't run the risk of blowing your HDD up if you don't know what you're doing.
Most linux distros will boot into a live mode now, including Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

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If you've got a spare machine to hammer on, I'm a fan of Ubuntu, since it's derived from Debian, and I've worked in a Debian shop for years. (Although I'm moving to a RHEL one...)
Went from RHEL (CentOS specifically) to debian and it's not too bad of a change. Biggest thing for me was learning all the functionality I knew with yum/rpm and learning how to do the same with aptitude.

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I've been using Linux Mint 14 for awhile and haven't found it buggy. I guess it depends on your hardware (as with all things Linux). I currently use KDE and really like it, but I also tried Cinnamon for awhile and liked that too. I never cared much for Ubuntu's new default desktop setup (Unity).
Yeah a big part of it was hardware. Had two big issues:
1. Getting dual monitors to work on their native resolutions was a tedious process, and I had to repeat it after each reboot
2. Downloads would just STOP every ~30 seconds or so, for at least 10-20 seconds. It was ridiculous.

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Wow, I didn't know that something like that existed.
I stopped caring after they ruined GNOME with the changes made in 3 and refuse to use KDE/Xfce because I've always disliked them.
Yeah I've never been a huge fan of GNOME but it tended to be the most sane. KDE is complete garbage in my opinion.

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While we're nerding out, let's give Nuget the props it deserves. Give me Log4Net! DONE. Give me Twitter Bootstrap! DONE.

I love it.

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[QUOTE=vcv;61299591]Most linux distros will boot into a live mode now, including Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

Went from RHEL (CentOS specifically) to debian and it's not too bad of a change. Biggest thing for me was learning all the functionality I knew with yum/rpm and learning how to do the same with aptitude.

Just beware if you have to build your own packages. I find the rpm packaging system much superior to debian's.

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03-09-2013, 12:33 PM
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Yeah I've never been a huge fan of GNOME but it tended to be the most sane. KDE is complete garbage in my opinion.
Just curious why you dislike KDE so much? When was the last time you tried it?

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Mmmmmmm, creamy nougat

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Just beware if you have to build your own packages. I find the rpm packaging system much superior to debian's.
Building your own, meh to both. I just use fpm to do the dirty work for me.

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Just curious why you dislike KDE so much? When was the last time you tried it?
Because it looks bad. I can't stand using it because it's just plain ugly to me. Poor icons, bad font rendering and font choices, bad use of shadows, gradients, etc.

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Just bought a Vizio HDTV that is going up in our bedroom (been opposed to that for a long time, but have some reasons for trying it now). Internet enabled apps (Netflix, youtube, hulu, etc) = weeeeeee

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Mmmmmmm, creamy nougat
3 Musketeers have always been some of my favorites.

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Because it looks bad. I can't stand using it because it's just plain ugly to me. Poor icons, bad font rendering and font choices, bad use of shadows, gradients, etc.
Fair enough. The aesthetics don't bother me at all, at least on 4.10. I like it because it is very feature-rich and configurable, and to me it looks quite good depending on the theme.

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Building your own, meh to both. I just use fpm to do the dirty work for me.


Because it looks bad. I can't stand using it because it's just plain ugly to me. Poor icons, bad font rendering and font choices, bad use of shadows, gradients, etc.

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Just bought a Vizio HDTV that is going up in our bedroom (been opposed to that for a long time, but have some reasons for trying it now). Internet enabled apps (Netflix, youtube, hulu, etc) = weeeeeee
Don't the dwarves on level three look too much like the elves on level six?

- What do you want to do about it now, Kane? Changing it would be too expensive and take too much time

True. BUT... What if you just rendered them a different color? Would be cheap, wouldn't take more than a day or two

- LEAVE THE DECISIONS TO ME, Kane. There's a reason why I'm a genius and you're just a tester!

(*heeee hadda good idea*)


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C'mon, vcv. No XBMC?

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C'mon, vcv. No XBMC?

I don't want additional hardware hanging from the wall.

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I don't want additional hardware hanging from the wall.
Raspberry Pi??? Tape that ish to the back of your tv.

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Just applied for an internship with Norfolk& Southern RR.

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Just applied for an internship with Norfolk& Southern RR.
I just rejected it.

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Because it looks bad. I can't stand using it because it's just plain ugly to me. Poor icons, bad font rendering and font choices, bad use of shadows, gradients, etc.
It's always had a counterfeit goods feel to it for me.
It tries to mimic the look and feel of other OS's and almost does, but always seems to have a cheap element, whether it's an ugly font or terrible icon.

Also, looking at it from a development standpoint, Qt sucks.

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I just rejected it.
Read it could take up to 6 months for a call. Talked to a CSX conductor/engineer for a few hours today at the Depew station. He told me a lot of valuable info on employment within an RR.

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Read it could take up to 6 months for a call. Talked to a CSX conductor/engineer for a few hours today at the Depew station. He told me a lot of valuable info on employment within an RR.
One of my former students got a job driving trains out of the Albany area. It can't be that hard, she wasn't the best student.

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One of my former students got a job driving trains out of the Albany area. It can't be that hard, she wasn't the best student.
Did you receive any info on how she got called, etc? I'm having a hard time finding this "class" they have you take for the hiring pool.

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My father worked for Conrail for almost 15 years. He took the severance package back in '81 as Reagan deregulated things and the move to shipping via tractor trailers surged. I still remember going to the yard to pick up his paychecks and being able to watch them building trains.

Granted, I also remember a couple of his coworkers having some terrible experiences, one guy got coupled between two freight cars, fatally. Another didn't tuck his pants into his boots down by the Ohio St. yard and got bit several times by a rat that went up his pant leg. Not only did he have to get the old fashioned rabies shots in the stomach, he had to deal with a rat bite to the genitals.

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I hear a lot of **** from employees but then good things from others. Guy told me do what your job tells you to and do it well and you're fine of course.

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I hear a lot of **** from employees but then good things from others. Guy told me do what your job tells you to and do it well and you're fine of course.
It's been over 30 years since my father was there and just about everyone he worked with that is still alive were laid off before he was. On of my best friend's dads got let go in something like '78.

Ok, I feel old now.

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It's been over 30 years since my father was there and just about everyone he worked with that is still alive were laid off before he was. On of my best friend's dads got let go in something like '78.

Ok, I feel old now.
Old=Wisdom man, I get knocked cause I'm 18 and all that. Kind of upsetting when anyone thinks of it. I'd be interested in things regarding Yard ops and conductor/engineering/crews on the trains themselves. I also kind of looked into Amtrak employment.

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GW - I've got another friend in the railroad industry (Iowa) if you ever want some more advice or a possible contact. He's an engineer. He's also a little off the wall but a decent enough guy

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