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03-09-2013, 05:53 PM
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I didn't have the numbers in front of me quack. Go read a couple posts ago with the breakdown of the Crosby contract.

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That might be a lesson to you, Ducksgo. It helps to have an informed opinion.

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Meh IMO you tell perry he can have Getzlaf's contract (structured differently) but same average and that's it. If he's not ok with that, you move him. Sad but that's the reality.
And I think this is what's going to happen. We should just ask NJ they feel about not moving thei player at the deadline.

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And I think this is what's going to happen. We should just ask NJ they feel about not moving thei player at the deadline.
They made the Stanley Cup Finals. I'd say while they sure didn't like losing Parise, they went deep in the playoffs. That is worth at lot as well.

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And the way he's playing right now he'd be considered a hero. These guys know how to tune out the media, they practice it every day. It's also part of the job to interact. I don't think Toronto would be actively pursuing Perry, just using Kessel as an example. But in a place like Ottawa he wouldn't even be the best player on his team. That right there takes a load off. He still would have to live up to the money he's going to make, which is the main issue but personally I don't think he'll have any problems with that.
You say all players deal with outside distractions equally as well and I say they don't. I think we can agree to disagree.

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And I think this is what's going to happen. We should just ask NJ they feel about not moving thei player at the deadline.
The fans... or the organization? Because you might not get the same answer.

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And I think this is what's going to happen. We should just ask NJ they feel about not moving thei player at the deadline.
I think the majority liked the decision. They almost won a cup. Hypothetically, if we're guaranteed a cup final appearance I keep Perry every time.

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To give it some perspective, and keep in mind that I'm not saying the situation is identical, but: Anaheim lost Kariya. For nothing. Is your preference that Anaheim move him, to at least get something, or that they go on a pretty fantastic playoff run?

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You say all players deal with outside distractions equally
Not at all. It's fact that some players let distractions get to them more than others, and let it bring their game down. I mentioned earlier that Perry hasn't had a problem with distractions affecting his on ice play, citing his MVP and Richard trophy season, also being a big part of Stanley Cup and Gold Medal winning teams. Media pressure is a big topic in Sports Psychology, there's no denying that. Perry is a guy that has shown he doesn't get phased by it too much, but we aren't in his head, we can only judge based on performance.

But sure, agree to disagree.

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I think the majority liked the decision. They almost won a cup. Hypothetically, if we're guaranteed a cup final appearance I keep Perry every time.
Really? What if we could snag a first and a top prospect? Or better if its a bidding war?

That's actually a pretty darn good discussion. Keep Perry and do a playoff run? Or move him for assets and let the bidding war begin?

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And I think this is what's going to happen. We should just ask NJ they feel about not moving thei player at the deadline.
You realize they are the reigning eastern conference champions, currently in the playoffs while parises team sits in 11th with a lot of tough teams fighting for those playoff spots 11th isnt ideal.

Yes they prob hate that they lost parise but they are still a good team and they did come games from winning a cup last season.

If we keep perry go the cup(win or lose) and then come back next season and contend again id be perfectly okay with it.

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Really? What if we could snag a first and a top prospect? Or better if its a bidding war?

That's actually a pretty darn good discussion. Keep Perry and do a playoff run? Or move him for assets and let the bidding war begin?
Here is what the owner hears: Make millions of dollars... or lose a player, and keep going.

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Really? What if we could snag a first and a top prospect? Or better if its a bidding war?

That's actually a pretty darn good discussion. Keep Perry and do a playoff run? Or move him for assets and let the bidding war begin?
This is likely Selanne's last shot at a Cup.

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This is likely Selanne's last shot at a Cup.
I agree. It was a perfect storm kinda season for him, in that there were no East coast travel dates, as well as only 48+ games, but I don't see him coming back for a full 82 game + Play-offs season.
I, for one, would absolutely love to send him out with another Cup win.

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I agree. It was a perfect storm kinda season for him, in that there were no East coast travel dates, as well as only 48+ games, but I don't see him coming back for a full 82 game + Play-offs season.
I, for one, would absolutely love to send him out with another Cup win.
Well, make that two of us.

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Washington may be looking for a shakeup. I would start calling McPhee and see if he is willing to swap Backstrom for Perry. We would address a huge hole in the middle.

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This is likely Selanne's last shot at a Cup.
You act like he hasn't already won the cup.

It's more emotional for a guy like Koivu who a) hasn't won a cup, b) deserves a cup, c) has played his heart out and leaves everything on the ice

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Really? What if we could snag a first and a top prospect? Or better if its a bidding war?

That's actually a pretty darn good discussion. Keep Perry and do a playoff run? Or move him for assets and let the bidding war begin?
if we can't sign him. we NEED to trade him. losing a player of Perry's calibre without replacing him with anything is beyond retarded asset management

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Teams that are "contenders" don't trade their star players who are upcoming UFA's.

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Washington may be looking for a shakeup. I would start calling McPhee and see if he is willing to swap Backstrom for Perry. We would address a huge hole in the middle.
I'd love it but Washington would never do that.

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Washington may be looking for a shakeup. I would start calling McPhee and see if he is willing to swap Backstrom for Perry. We would address a huge hole in the middle.
Washington's definitely a team I'd target, the other's Buffalo. Two struggling, talented teams in need of a shake up, and especially in the case of the latter, with desperate GMs.

Would not be surprised in the least if Buffalo gave up an outrageous package for Perry. Regier is probably going to lose his job unless they make the playoffs and/or adding a guy like Perry. That kind of desperation can lead to stupidity(see: Feaster, Jay).

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Teams that are "contenders" don't trade their star players who are upcoming UFA's.
meh. i don't see us as contenders. and as a small market team, we need to be really wise with our asset management. one run with perry brings in maybe a tiny bit of extra revenue for us, but with our revenue sharing that'll cover some costs.

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You act like he hasn't already won the cup.

It's more emotional for a guy like Koivu who a) hasn't won a cup, b) deserves a cup, c) has played his heart out and leaves everything on the ice
Koivu can easily play another 3-5 years in the league, which means this isn't his last shot at the cup. He's also more likely to leave if the Ducks lowball the hell out of him again.

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meh. i don't see us as contenders. and as a small market team, we need to be really wise with our asset management. one run with perry brings in maybe a tiny bit of extra revenue for us, but with our revenue sharing that'll cover some costs.
Unfortunately or fortunately, it doesn't matter what we think. Being a small market team, Samueli probably values the money created from playoff hockey because he is a businessman, and after all the NHL is a business.

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There are a few that I think we need to understand. Does perry not want to sign here or only sign here at a price that Anaheim is not comfortable with (which I assume is more than Getzalf). If the latter is the case then traditional for a guy like back storm who has a huge contract as well may not work for Anaheim.

I'm hoping this is all just maneurving as part of the negotiation and in the end he signs an identical deal as Getzalf.

Then we go and get a 2nd line center an try to win the cup.

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